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HISTORIC PENMON.
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PENMON LIFEBOAT RESCUES. 
This information is supplied courtesy of the Beaumaris Lifeboat webpage.
It records details of great acts of bravery between 1831 and 1915.

MENAI LIGHTHOUSE & PILOT FAMILIES 
Here we record the families who ensured that the light never went out
for those approaching the Menai Straits by sea. 


 

Cae Merddyn, Penmon
reproduced here by kind permission of illustrator
Kim Selene Davies
great great great granddaughter of Joseph and Margaret Jones
who lived at Cae Merddyn from c 1861


More of Kimmy's Custom Art work can be found at;


PENMON NOSTALGIA
CONTENTS

A LETTER FROM 1890     


THE VICAR OF PENMON            


THE CLERGY OF BEAUMARIS PARISHES;
LLANFAES AND PENMON
 


Rev RICHARD PIERCE WILLIAMS
Penmon Curate 1938 - 1945 (?)


  YSGOL PENMON SCHOOL  1896 
 

1920 PENMON CHURCH SCHOOL


PENMON F.C. 1930 - 31


 YSGOL SUL CAIM 1931 - 32

 

DINMOR LIMESTONE QUARRY 1938


A  LETTER  FROM  1968


JOHN JONES, CAIM and
THE BATTLE of WATERLOO 


A TOUR IN WALES
BY THOMAS PENNANT


SEA TRIPS FROM LLANDUDNO


DANGER MAN


ANYONE FOR TEA?

 

DERELICT HOUSE


DAVID ATTENBOROUGH


MARGARET ANN WILLIAMS
born c 1866, Penmon


HARDWICKE FAMILY AT PENMON?


JAMES SUNNERS
Penmon Publican?


OWEN OWENS 
Llain Wen, Penmon


OWEN FAMILY
Bryn Caim


ROBERTS FAMILY
PENTIR, PENMON


RICHARD LLOYD
Master Mariner, 1812 - 1889


WILLIAM ROWLANDS
Trecastell


MARGARET HUGHES
1850 - 1922, Bryn Caim, Penmon


JOHN EDWARD JONES
Born Caim, Penmon 1887



THE WILLIAMS FAMILY
Park, Penmon


AMAZING BUCKLE FIND
M J Williams

"It's part of me."
Received a lovely letter from Jim Carton in reponse to a request I placed in the February 2010 edition of 'Best of British' magazine, asking people to share their memories of the Beaumaris area.

When I was 10 years of age, just after the Second World War, I went with my parents on a well earned holiday in Penmon.

We had a bad time in Salford, where we lived, during the Blitz, and lost three houses over three years. We were very lucky to survive after being a long time in hospital, though sad to say my sister age 4 did not recover and was dead and buried by the time I was discharged.

So as you can imagine, Penmon was to us like a completely different world (Paradise) and a great relief. Of course, Salford being an industrial area and next to the docks, ship canal, railways etc, was a German bombing target and lots of people living there suffered.

That was the start of my family connections with the 'Isle of Anglesey' and lots of very happy and enjoyable times over the years.

You will probably be surprised at the fact that it had such an impact, that my mother and father would never go anywhere else for holidays, except of course for odd days out.

We used to stay in one of the old stone houses with an elderly couple by the name of Jones. I remembered the small village Post Office and the water pump down the lane. There was no running water or electric. I used to go with my father to collect the water. I think we probably went there for about 4 or 5 years, until Mr and Mrs Jones died.

After that we used to stay in Llangoed annually, with two different families over the years. Sometimes as I got older, I would go on my own.

As you can imagine over such a long period of time, we got to know a lot of local people and they used to look forward to seeing us each year.

My parents used to go to The Ship Inn under the arches in Beaumaris, and always enjoyed a good chat with the locals. This in later years became the chip shop.

They knew a man who had no legs, who lived above the newsagents shop in Castle Street, opposite the Fish and Chip Cafe, and of course, the Cox of the Lifeboat, Harold Jones.

My parents in those days enjoyed walking down the country lanes and of course there were not very many buses then. We thought nothing of it, walking to the Priory and Penmon Point, Red Wharf Bay, even to Menai Bridge along the coast road. This is not possible now because of the volume of traffic. We loved the boat trips from Menai Bridge to Llandudno and back - such good fun.

I remember the picture house on Rating Row and the laundry, next door (I think!), such a long time ago. I also remember the petrol pump on Castle Street near the present day Castle Bakery and Cafe, and the original Lifeboat Station at Beaumaris with the long gantry from the shore.

Around the bay was the 'Fryar Factory', and in the 1950s, I remember the motor gunboats and patrol boats being built at Fryars for the Royal Navy and the slipway across the road which was originally for the Catalina Flying Boats etc during the War.

My father's health started to decline in the 1970s and he passed away in October 1976 while on holiday in Llangoed. He went against doctor's orders saying he wasn't fit enough to go, but he wouldn't be put off and I've always  thought he went there to die. He loved it so much.

My mother and I agreed he be buried in St Cawrda's Churchyard in Llangoed.

I was working at the time and living in on the job at Southport, so my mother moved to Southport near me. She passed away in June 1980 and her ashes were placed in my father's grave.


St Cawrda's Church

In loving memory

of
WILLIAM CARTON
born 24.5.09 died 10.9.76
ANASTASIA CARTON
born 17.6.07 died 23.6.80
"There's  a place in my heart called Memory Lane
And in it dear Mmam and Dad you will always remain."
"Until we meet again".
Devoted son Jimmy 

 

I married late in life in 1996 at St Cawrda's Church. My wife Joyce had known my parents for many years and we agreed that we would be married where my parents were. We had the reception at the 'Sailor's Return', Church Street, Beaumaris

Likewise, Joyce also loved it around that area. We used to stay mainly in Beaumaris in different B&Bs.

Sadly Joyce had a sudden heart attack in October 2004, and died. I took half her ashes to be near my parents and the other half at Winsford Cheshire, where we were living at the time.

I mainly now go on anniversary dates and birthdays, but I have the memories going back a long time. Plus of course, the many photos I took. I know the gentleman who operates the fishing trips and pleasure trips around Puffin Island. Joyce and I always liked a game of bowls near the Castle.

These are all memories now, but that particular part of Anglesey will always have a special place in my heart - it's part of me. 

My special thanks to Jim for writing a most interesting letter about his memories. KD. 

THE GREAT WAR 1914/18
IN MEMORIAM

Would you like to record details of a relative
who served King and Country in The Great War?
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Other useful website links (click on title)
PHOTOS OF CHURCHES - ANGLESEY
ANGLESEY WAR MEMORIALS
OLD PHOTOS - ANGLESEY



A LETTER FROM 1890     


John Williams of Pembrokeshire writes; I found this transcription among family papers.  I cannot be sure who it was addressed to, but I guess it was to a female member of the Tan y Fron family, in Penmon, in response to a letter received by him.
                                                                    
Gorddinog ,
Cemaes, November 1890
Dear Niece
I received your letter this morning and I will try to answer some of your questions as far as I know about them.

My grandfather's name was John Williams and my grandmother's name was Elizabeth Williams and the name of their residence was 'Caehir' (long field) which was a small holding added to Tanyfron after the death of my grandmother, and by now part of it belongs to Pwll Crwn owned formerly by Hugh Roberts.

My grandfather and my grandmother had five children namely two daughters and three boys - the name of the eldest was William, and my father the second, was John and the youngest was Rowland.

My grandfather and his two daughters were drowned in the Penmon boat when they were returning from the Bangor fair - June 25 - 1787. My grandmother died in a year's time after the accident of a broken heart after their loss.
William went to Tycoch, Llanffinan to his aunt and there he died. My father went as an apprentice as a sailor, and Rowland was sent as an apprentice as a tailor to a man who at that time lived at Llain Swllt, Llangoed; and when he had served his time there - he went to America - and the only thing that my father heard of him afterwards - that he was working in a rope factory in New York. This is what I heard about him, that he went to Jamaica. A man named Deiniol Wyn was a missionary of the English Church in Jamaica, and afterwards became a schoolmaster there and when he returned from there to his old home in Caernarfon, he met two men from Cemaes and asked them whether they knew a man named Rowland Williams, Penmon or any of his relations.
 

The man said that a man of that name had been to Jamaica and lived there and had a sugar plantation and kept two thousand slaves. He had built a church and had given it as a gift to the English church. His name was engraved on the gable end of the church - Rowland Williams, Penmon, Anglesea during the time when England gave the slaves their freedom. He left his estate and went to South America and never returned. One of his workmen told Deiniol Wyn this, and when Deiniol Wyn was in Jamaica, the estate had become wild without an owner. I do not know nor the one in Cemaes, which place in Jamaica he lived, nor where the church was. Very likely he died before this and that in South America he died and was buried there - I do not know.

Deiniol Wyn is dead but his relations are living in Caernarfon. Very likely if you came across them, they could give you all the information.

We are pleased to hear that M A Williams, Tanyfron  is getting better.
We are sorry to hear that R Roberts Llangoed is still poorly.
We wish to be remember to you and all the family
. 

Yours very sincerely
Your uncle - John Williams


John explains that; John Williams was a retired minister and can be found at Gorddinog in the Cemaes Census returns of the relevant period.
 
I guess that Cae Hir, where his ancestors lived, was the long field between the Tan y Fron Covert and the track leading to Tan y Fron.  Indeed the field now belongs in part to Pwll Crwn and in part to Tan y Fron.
 
I can find no refernces to a ferry accident in 1787 involving the Penmon ferry.  Only the well reported Abermenai ferry tragedy in 1785.
 
The story about the Rowland Williams and his slaves in Jamaica is fascinating, but possibly a bit embelished when passed from seaman to seaman!
 
The Mary Anne Williams mentioned in the letter is the daughter of Robert Williams, Tan y Fron.  I believe Robert Roberts, Llangoed, was the son in law of my g.g.grandfather John Williams, the Black Point pilot, both of whom lived at Pwll Crwn Fach.
 
If you can add to the information contained in above letter, please contact John, via this website, on the contact form on the left hand side of this page.  
 
Response received in connection with the 1890 letter and Rowland Williams' connection with Jamaica.
 
I have been very interested in your web site. 
 
There is a plaque in a wall of a church in Anglesea, Parish of Westmoreland, Jamaica to a Rowland Williams of Penmon which is undated but could be c 1700.  There seems to be too much of a coincidence that this Rowland or his forebears might have gone to Jamaica from Penmon.  Do you know if there is anyone with a Williams from Penmon Genealogy as I would like to have got in touch?
 
The letter regarding the Rowland Williams and the church I believe is a little muddled as the Williams of Anglesea who owned the plantation when the slaves got their freedom was one Joseph Stone Williams and he left the estate to my 3xgt grandfather Theodore who was vicar of Hendon. Theodore and Joseph were brothers and a Rowland Wiliiam's gt gt grandsons.
I have no doubt you get other letters of this nature so please do not spend anytime on it.
 
Many thanks
 
Neale Lawson
 
MORE INFORMATION ON THE WILLIAMS FAMILY CAN BE FOUND IN THE LINK TO TAN Y FRON

Received this intriguing letter from Marie Williams of Jamaica. KD

Having read the following extract from the 1890 letter on your website, I wonder if I am in anyway related to the Williamses of Tan y Fron?
"... and when he came out of his (apprenticeship) he went to sea and was heard of working in Rope works at New-York, and about fifteen years ago a mission came to Carnarvon from Jamaica seeking for relative to this Rowland Williams who had (escaped) from Jamaica in the time of freedom to slaves, as he (posessed) 2,000 of slaves, working a sugar plantation, and in the Plantation was a Church and on this Churchs Gable End was engraved on a stone Presented by Rowland Williams from Penmon Anglesey, and the said plantation was very (lately) wild and..."
 As a Jamaican with the family name "Williams" and with family from Clarendon, St Catherine, I wonder if I could have great grandfathers from this line.  My grandmother's name Eliza Williams on my mother's side and the very similar sounding names in my family have me intrigued.  It may of course just be coincidence and there must be so many "Williams" in Jamaica anyway.
Additionally;
" ...I have started looking at the Slave Registers of the 1820 -1830 period, and find there was a Rowland Williams, who appears to have been an owner of a relatively small number of slaves, mostly in the parish of Elizabeth, but also in St Catherines, and Kingston (not in Westmoreland). What is quite interesting is that he also appears to have acted as Attorney (the terminology which seems to mean a representative, or manager for an absentee landlord) for other slave (plantation?) owners. One of the people he acted for was Joseph Stone Williams, and this is the name mentioned by Neale Lawson. There are quite a number of Williams owning slaves in Jamaica in this period, and it would be interesting to know if and how they were connected..."
I always suspected that I might have Welsh roots, although I am Jamaican, having the "Williams" surname.  Both my parents are Williams, meaning that my mother's surname was Williams before she married and we all come from St Catherine.  The extract that I've taken from the Williams website mentions "slaves mostly in St Elizabeth but also in St Catherine" too, which makes me wonder if I am in some way connected.
I haven't managed to trace any family to Anglesey yet because I have only just started doing my research which has only amounted in me discovering quite accidentally the Tan y Fron Williams website on the Internet yesterday and becoming both fascinated and excited by it all!
I am trying to trace my family tree, and having read the Tan y Fron page, this really spurs me on!

Neale Lawson kindly responds;
Marie,
I have had forwarded your email regarding your grandmother Eliza Williams.
Since I first put my message on the Penmon site I have proceeded a long way with my Jamaican connection.  Although I have a Rowland Williams in my tree he has no connection with Anglesea except that his son bought an estate called Anglesea from one of the Haughton family in Jamaica.  My Williams also had a plantation called Carawina and both were in the parish of Westmoreland.  My Williams family appear to have originated from Dorset and my ancestor left Jamaica in 1805 with his mother and brother.  One brother William stayed behind and ran the estates.
I will send you some information on Rowland Williams born 17th August 1789 who did leave Jamaica, but went to Canada, was an attorney and died in about 1840.  His will is dated 5 December 1840
If I can be of more help please let me know
Regards
Neale Lawson


Marie can be contacted via mail@penmon.org if you can help her with her family history research. KD


THE VICAR OF PENMON            


Penmon Priory and Church

Here we record the old Vicars of Penmon and Llanfaes.

1901.  John David Jones 29 of Talley, Carmarthenshire was the Clergy man of the Church of England Church. His wife Maud Lucy , 31 was from Dawlish, Devon and their 10 month old daughter was born in St Asaph. David Herbert 39 of Llanddewi Brefi was the only visitor in the Vicarage apart from his wife Helen 33, of Lincoln. Cooking for the family was Penmon born Jane Jones 23, Mary Catherine Dawson 16 of Llandysilio was their nurse and Edward Bulkeley 16 of Beaumaris, their garden boy.

1891. This census entry simply reads "No one sleeping there on the night of April 5th 1891. Occupier Mr Kyffin as boarder, of Rhos Cottage". 

          

1881. Living at the Vicarage in the Parish of Llanfaes was Thomas W Trevor 42, Vicar of Penmon and Llanfaes, born in Llanfaelog. He was also vicar here in 1871. His wife Caroline 41 came from Llangristiolus. They had five children living at home with them. Laura 13 was born when the couple lived in Dolgelley, Bronwen 11 and her siblings Thomas W. 5, Edward R.3 and Gwladys E. 2 were born in Penmon.
Boarding with the family was Governess Augusta M. Sessions, 25 of Cornwall. The vicar employed Jane Morris 50 of Bangor, Emma Bellwood 21 of Llanfaes and Emma Hughes 19 of Beaumaris as domestic servants.

1871. Vicar of Penmon and Llanfaes in the Diocese of Bangor, was Thomas W Trevor 32 born in Llanfaelog. His wife Catherine was 31 and came from Trefodraeth (1881 says Llangristiolus). 3 year old Laura was Dolgelley born and Bronwen A. 1 came from Penmon. Ellen Owen 23 of Llangadwaladr cooked for the household, Mary Thomas 23 of Trefdaeth was a housemaid and the nurse Ann Jones 22 came from Dolgelley. 

1861. Penmon Parsonage housed Phillip E. Ellis of Pwllheli. His wife Ellen was from Southend, their children Ellen 4, P.C.S 2 and Henry M 1 were born in Beaumaris.
Fanny Thomas 22, the cook was from Bangor, Ann Price 23 the nurse from Eastham and housemaid G.V. Thomas 20 from Llandulais.


My thanks to Rowena Evans for supplying prints of the Penmon Church and Priory.


 

The Clergy of the Beaumaris Parishes

LLANFAES with PENMON

Llanfaes friary was established after the death of Joan, natural daughter of King John of England, and wife of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Wales.
1283 - grant to Gervase de Dolganewall, Chaplain.
1310 - Adam Conrad
1317 - Anian Archdeacon of Anglesey (Bishop of Bangor)
1319 - William de Sumery
1319 - Alexander de Wyndesore
1320 - Simon ap Dafydd
1331 - John de Graystoke
1334 - John de Helpeston

Priors of Penmon
1306 - Iorwerth
1310 - Gervase de Bristoll
1311 - Roger de Mortuo
1316 - John Seys, Canon of Bardesey (sic)
1317 - Matthew Goch, Canon of Penmon
1335 - Einion ap Goronwy is mentioned
Gap in records
c1410 - John Castell
1414 - Thomas de Trentith or Trentham, Canon of the house
Gap in records
c1440 - Thomas Godfrey
1445 - William Whalley, Canon of the house
1452 - William Ardescote, Prior of both Penmon and Priestholme (Puffin Island)
1468 - John Ingram, Canon of the house
Last prior - John Godfrey
1530s - dissolution of the Monasteries.
Note; most priors elrcted were from the house itself aqnd thus mostly native Welshmen
.


1623 - Sir Richard Lewis was Curate of Llan Saint Katrine (Llanfaes) with Llaniestyn and Llanddona)
1726 - John Griffiths BA, Priest
1748 - James Vincent (became Canon of Bangor Cathedral in 1750)
1775 - William Jones BA
More detailed records available from 1792
1780 - Richard Thomas
1830 - John Williams BA
1837 - Hugh Jones
1843 - Hugh Davies Owen BA
1843-5 - Evan Lewis, Curate
1840 - John Owen Jones, Perpetual Curate of Llanfaes and Penmon
1850 - Philip Constable Ellis, Perpetual Curate of Llanfaes and Penmon
1862 - John Skinner Jones
1868 - Thomas Warren Trevor, Vicar


Curates at this time were;
1851 - John Roberts, Curate
1858 - David Rowland Davies
1868 - Maurice Price Williams
1871 - John Jones
1872 - John Robert Edwards
1874 - John Davies
1880 - John Roberts
1906 - David Edward Evans

Clerics of Llanfaes and Penmon;
1888 - John Roberts
1889 - Owen Kyffin Williams
1896 - Hugh Williams
1900 - John David Jones
1901 - Robert Parker Jones
1905 - Maurice Arthur Hughes
1907 - John Bangor Jones
1910 - John Timothy Phillips
1911 - John Owen
1913 - Joseph Evans Pugh
1913 - David Edward Evans, was Curate in 1906
1919 - Griffith Williams
1920 - John Morgan Wright
1925 - William Williams
 

I am very grateful to
NEIL FAIRLAMB
Rector of Beaumaris
for permission to extract the above details from his book
THE CLERGY OF THE
BEAUMARIS PARISHES
(The Church in Wales)
Copies of the book are available from him;
Revd Neil Fairlamb, The Rectory,
Beaumaris, Anglesey, LL58 8BN

at a remarkable £1.45 (One pound 45p)including postage and packing.
24 x A4 pages of text 

A couple of examples of text taken at random are;

In 1830, John Williams was appointed; he was son of Rowland Williams, an attorney. A graduate of Jesus College, BA in 1821 and Fellow 1822-32, he was first perpetual curate of Llandegfan in 1822 and them perpetual curate of Llangoed, Llan-faes and Penmon to his early death in 1837.

In 1900 John David Jones, scholar of the Queen's College, Oxford, 1891, BA 1895, MA 1899, Deacon 1895, priest 1896. He was first curate of Llanfairpwll 1895-7 and then Vicar Choral of St Asaph Cathedral 1897-1900. He remained in post for 13 years until 1913 before becoming Vicar of St Mary's and St James's, Bangor, and later Vicar of Aberdyfi and Prebendary of Llanfair. He was editor of Llawlyfrau yr Ysgolion Sul.


Rev RICHARD PIERCE WILLIAMS
Penmon Curate 1938 - 1945 (?)


I am very grateful to Mark Trenowden for kindly supplying this photograph of his grandfather, Reverend Richard Pierce Williams, who was Curate of Penmon during the Second World War.
Mark recently enjoyed a trip to Penmon.

 

  YSGOL PENMON SCHOOL  1896 

Above we see two photos of pupils at Penmon School in 1896.
Can you help by identifying any of them please? Some clues may appear in the 1891 census details which appear on the PENMON PAST link at the top left of this page.

1920 PENMON CHURCH SCHOOL


Ann Catherine Jones, third daughter of John & Elizabeth Jones (nee Williams) of Bodferieg, Llangoed, is pictured  holding the school board, aged about 12. The teacher is Mr Thomas

PENMON SCHOOL c1922 TOP CLASS

Front row ; Mr Thomas, Winnie Haley, Nan Davies, Madge Roberts,
Olwen Owen, Maryl Jones.
Second row ; O. T. Rowlands, Benny Owen, Jack Williams, Glyn Owen,
William John Hughes, Sam Lewis.
Back row ; Wynn Thomas, Arthur Haley, Jack Hunter,
Sam Jones, Jack Roberts
.

 PENMON FOOTBALL CLUB 1930 - 31
ANGLESEY CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS

W. Thomas, Iorwerth Owen, E. Williams, A. Haley, John Seiriol Jones, Sam Jones, Tom Owen, Trevor Williams, George Brereton and W. Rowlands


 YSGOL SUL CAIM 1931 - 32

The gentleman sitting in the middle of the front row is my great grandfather,
Charles Goodman Roberts. He was the Sunday School Teacher at  Caim.  
Adults called him 'Yr Hen Gristion' or 'The Old Christian', the children             called him 'Taid'.                                                                                                   
Front row, left to right; Eluned Hughes, Olwen Williams, Eileen Owen, Maldwyn Jones, Tudor Evans, Olwen Roper, Mair Owen, Menna Jones, Eluned Roberts, Charles G. Roberts (teacher), Iris Jones, Dilys Owen, Betty Owen, John Jones, Seiriol Thomas, Austin Jones, Thomas Hughes.
Middle Row; Joseph Price, Betty Waters, ===?===, Me.... Owen, Maggie Roberts, Rose Hughes, Mary Williams, Mon Owen, Huw Parry Lewis, Bobbie Jones, Lewis Hughes, William Jones.
Back Row; Emyr Owen, ===?===, Annie Jones, Nancy Price, Bob Evans, Hugh Owen, Molly Parry, Ted Owen (Penfro Bach), Jennie Thomas, Ted Owen (1, Pen Fron)

DINMOR LIMESTONE QUARRIES,
PENMON 1938
Photos taken by the late Mr Horace Barber.
Reproduced here by kind permission of his son Alan Barber.


The pier and crusher shed, Sychnant Quarry, Penmon.


Just arriving for another load.


The pier, Sychnant Quarry


Limestone for the Mersey Wall

 


A  LETTER  FROM  1968


William Hughes, son of Lizzie who was a daughter of Joseph and Margaret Jones who lived at Cae Merddyn in 1800s, wrote to Audrey Bradbury, his first cousin, once removed. These are extracts from the letter where he recalls his childhood days around the Penmon area.   

Reading the names of villages and hamlets which I had almost forgotten, gives me a great deal of pleasure. One I shall always remember is Moelfre.

A fishmonger  with his donkey and cart would come up the road regularly from Beaumaris. We could hear him before we could see him. He would be selling "Moelfre herrings, fresh Meolfre herrings, chwech am chwech!!"

Mother would never buy on his morning trip. In the afternoon he would be returning, but this time it would be "Moelfre herrings, pymtheg am chwech!" and we would buy a few.

Let me again just 'glance'. Long years ago when we had been in this country (Rome, New York, U.S.A.), I met a native of Anglesey, who was the pastor of our Lee Centre Church. He was a fair kind of poet. When I told him that I was born in Beaumaris, he became very interested and recited me one of his works, which I still remember. I thought you would like it.

Fe'm ganwyd yng ngolwg Yr Wyddfa
Tra'r Wyddfa yng ngolwg y Nef
Ar fryn bach dinod ar dir Mona Dyrchafais yn gyntef fy llef
A thybiwn wrth weled yr hen Wyddfa wen
Fod nefoedd a daear yn cwrdd ar ei phen.

    
He tells Audrey that he thinks her father, Joseph Jones is his cousin and your grandfather.

We stopped at Caim and talked with Aunt Mary, your Nain Caim. She was so pleased to see us and to learn that I was "un o hogia Lizzie Cae Merddyn". How old was she when she passed on in about 1955? I recall that there was a young fellow there too, probably about 30. I would very much like to learn more about the Penmon branch of our family.

My recollections of Beaumaris are as vivid as the happenings of yesterday. 'I fyny'r stryd' meant that section of Wexham Street (above) where Henllys Lon comes in.

 The Methodist Chapel which we attended and where my brothers and I were baptised by the pastor, Joseph Hillier; Beaumaris board school where I started when I was three. The schoolmaster was John Roberts whose nickname was 'cocky little man'.
 
The Board School, situated at New Street in the town of Beaumaris, northern Anglesey provided education for girls and boys at primary level in accordance with the Elementary Education Act of 1870. It also offered a range of evening classes in arithmetic, reading, composition, needlework, household management, shorthand, drawing, music and commercial practice etc. The school was administered for the municipal borough of Beaumaris by a school board. Teaching staff c. 1880-1910 included John Roberts, E. Marshall, M.A. Williams, Mary O' Connor and Jane Owen
 
The Clio (right) anchored at Borth - none of us were sent there for we were good boys.

 Henllys Lon  and the large field on the right as you go to Llangoed where the 4th Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers bivouacked; and beyond the race track; right where Henllys Lon meets Wexham Street, the shop of John Hughes, hot pies; The Green where we played and celebrated the coronation of King Edward VII and Queen Alexandris; the periwinkles we picked as the tide was slowyly ebbing!

How much of the vignette is still extant?

 


JOHN JONES, CAIM and 

THE BATTLE of WATERLOO 


In 1796, give or take a year, a boy was born at Caim whose name was John Jones. When very young, he enlisted in Anglesey's glorious cavalry.
 
He was only 18 or so on that unforgettable day, Sunday June 18th, 1815 Napoleon with 72,00 men faced Wellington with 67,000 British Allies. The battle began a little before noon.
 
Napoleon was on the offensive all day but Wellington stood firm. The smoke was thick and restricted the British view because the wind was not favourable.
 

The Battle of Waterloo, fought on 18 June 1815, was Napoleon Bonaparte's last battle. His defeat put a final end to his rule as Emperor of the French. Waterloo also marked the end of the period known as the Hundred Days, which began in March 1815 after Napoleon's return from Elba, where he had been exiled after his defeats at the Battle of Leipzig in 1813 and the campaigns of 1814 in France.

After Napoleon returned to power, many states which had previously resisted his rule formed the Seventh Coalition and began to mobilise armies to oppose him. The first two armies to assemble, close to the French north eastern border, were a Prussian army under the command of Gebhard von Blücher and an Anglo-allied army under the command of the Duke of Wellington. Napoleon chose to attack them in the hope of destroying them before they, with other members of the Seventh Coalition (who were not such an immediate threat), could join in a coordinated invasion of France. The campaign consisted of four major battles - Quatre Bras (16 June), Ligny (16 June), Waterloo (18 June), and Wavre (18 June-19 June) - with Waterloo proving decisive.

The nearest-run thing you ever saw in your life. - The Duke of Wellington

It rained heavily overnight on 17 June, so Napoleon delayed giving battle until noon on 18 June to allow the ground to dry out. Wellington's army positioned across the Brussels road on the Mont St Jean escarpment withstood repeated attacks by the French until in the evening they counter-attacked and drove the French from the field. Simultaneously the Prussians - arriving in force - broke through Napoleon's right flank adding their weight to the attack. Losses were heavy on all sides.

The French army left the battlefield in disorder, and was unable to prevent Coalition forces entering France and restoring King Louis XVIII to the French throne. Napoleon was exiled to St Helena, where he died in 1821.

The battlefield is in present-day Belgium, about 12 kilometres (7.5 mi) SSE of Brussels, and 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) from the town of Waterloo.

About 4pm, Napoleon seemed to be winning, although his losses were terrific. At 7pm, he ordered the flower of his cavalry to make a final assault.
 
They fought until 9pm. Then Wellington ordered the Marquis of Anglesey, England's greatest cavalry officer of his day, to charge!
 
By midnight, one of the world's most important battles was over. Both the Marquis and John Jones lost a leg.
 
John Jones of Caim had done his bit to help win the Battle of Waterloo!.
 
John Jones could be seen hobbling around Penmon in later years and lived to a good age.

 

A TOUR IN WALES

BY THOMAS PENNANT

The following article is reproduced from 'A Tour in Wales' by Thomas Pennant, Abridged by David Kirk and printed and published in Wales by Gwasg Carreg Gwalch, and appears by kind permission of the publishers. ISBN; 0-86381-473-5.
David Kirk writes; "Thomas Pennant was born on June 14th 1726 at Whitford. The three tours of Wales which form the basis of this volume took place in 1773 and 1776." The following relates to Pennant's time near Beaumaris and Penmon.
 
From Caenarfon I crossed the ferry to Tal-y-Foel in Ynys Mon. I soon reached Newborough (or more properly Rhosfair, the Welsh name). Here had been one of the residencies of our princes.
I continued my ride near the Menai which now opens considerably. The opposite limits are inexpressibly beautiful, lofty and finely clothed with hanging woods. The estuary of the river Conway flows at ita bottom between those noble headlands.(Penmaenmawr and Llandudno). This prospect is seen to best advantage from the Green near the castle of Biwmares from whence may also be seen Ynys Seiriol, the fortress itself, Baron Hill and its elegant improvements, and Red Hill, the house of Mr Sparrow.
 
The town of Biwmares is, as the name implies, pleasantly seated on a low land at the water's edge; it is neat and well built, and one street is very handsome.  Edward I built Biwmares Castle. The exterior walls are guarded by ten strong towers. The entrance faces the sea and near it is a long narrow advanced work called the Gunners Walk.
 
Edward surrounded the town with walls, made it a corporation and endowed it with great privileges and lands to a considerable value. He removed the ancient freeholders, by exchange of property, into other counties.
 
I visited the Priory of Penmon, placed on the shore. The remains are the ruinous refectory and the church; part of the last is in present use. Within is a small monument informing us that Sir Thomas Wilford of Ildington in Kent (one of whose daughters married Sir Richard Bulkeley) died January 25th 1654.   
 
About a mile from the shore is Ynys Seiriol. The first recluses of this island, according to Giraldus, were Hermits or whom (as uaual) he tells a superstitious tale that they were plagued with swarms of mice whenever they disagreed. At the dissolution the revenues were valued at 47 pounds 15 shillings and 3 pence, granted in the 6th of Queen Elizabeth to John Moore.
 
Ynys Seiriol is about a mile long and bounded by precipices except on the side opposite Penmon, and even there the ascent is very steep. The land slopes greatly from the summit to the edge of the precipices. During part of summer, the whole swarms with birds of passage.
The slope on the side is animated with puffin auks, which incessantly squall around you, alight and disappear into their burrows, or come out, stand erect and gaze at you in a most groteque manner, then take flight and either perform their evolutions about you or seek the sea in search of food.
 
They appear first about the 5th or 10th April but quite the place, almost t a bird, twice or thrice before they settle. Thei first employ is in the forming of burrows, which falls to the share of the males who are son intent on the business as to suffer themselves at that time to be taken by the hand. Some few save themselves the trouble of forming holes and will disposses the rabbits who, during the puffin season, retire to the other side of the island. They lay one white egg. Males as well as females perform the office of sitting, relieving each other when they go to feed.
 
The young are hatched in the beginning of July. The parents have the strongest affection for them but this affection ceases at the time of re-migration, about the 11th August. They then go off, to a single bird, and leave behind the unfledged young of the later hatches as prey to the peregrin falcon which watched the mouth of the holes for their appearance, compelled as they must soon be by hunger to come out. 
The foot of these birds is sprats, or sea-weeds, which makes them excessively rank, yet the young are pickled and preserved by species, and by some people much admired.
 
The channel between Ynys Seiriol and Ynys Mon has produced some very uncommon fish. The Biwmares shark, the morris and the tirfurcated hake are new species taken in this sea. The new mussel, called the umbilicated; is also frequently dredged up in the neighbourhood of this isle.
 
The Smirnium Olusatrun, or Alexander's, almost covers the south-west end of the island and is greedily eaten (boiled) by sailors who are just arrived from long voyages. The Iris Foctidissima, or stinking Gladwin, is common about the squre tower and is frequently made into a poultice with oatmeal and used by the country people with success in the quinsy. 
I returned to Biwmares and from thence visited Baron Hill, the seat of Lord Bulkeley, placed at the head of an extensive lawn, sloping down to the town, backed and winged by woods, which are great embellishments to the country. The founder of Baron Hill was Sir Richard Bulkeley, a most distinguished personage. He built it in 1618.


SEA TRIPS FROM LLANDUDNO

Article taken from NORTH WALES COMPLETE EDITION. Ward Lock & Co's Tourist Handbook, around 1921.
 
To lovers of the sea, a special charm of Llandudno is the number and variety of the sea trips that can be taken from it, under the most agreeable conditions, by the saloon steamers La Marguerite and others. There are daily sailings for Beaumaris, Bangor, Menai Bridge, Carnarvon and Liverpool. There are also frequent trips  round the Isle of Anglesey, to Douglas (Isle of Man) and to Blackpool, and cruises to Rhyl, Puffin Island, Holyhead and the Menai Strait, towards the Point of Ayr, towards the Dee Lightship and to Bardsey Island at the south-western extremity of Carnarvonshire.
 
The passage in the Menai Strait  is usually so calm that the most timid find it enjoyable. The principal points in it will be found in the following description of the trip -

ROUND THE ISLAND OF ANGLESEY


This embraces 80 miles of delightful coast scenery. On leaving Llandudno Pier, we pass close to the lofty, wave-worn cliffs of The Great Orme, and may see first the Church of St. Tudno, and shortly afterwards the Lighthouse, 325 feet above sea level. 
At the end of some 7 or 8 miles we arrive off Priestholme or Puffin Island, left, known also by the Welsh as Ynys Seiriol or Puffin Island, because Seiriol, a holy recluse in the sixth century, had a cell upon it. It is called Priestholm because it was occasionally used as a retreat by the inhabitants of the Priory of Penmon, on the neighbouring coast. And lastly it is known as Puffin Island through being the resort of immense numbers of the puffin auk.
It is about half a mile in length and is separated from Anglesey by a strait of about half a mile wide. Near the centre is an old square tower, the remains of a religious house or a church. To the south of the island is the Dutchman's Bank, on which the Rothsay Castle steamer, on its passage from Liverpool was wrecked on the night of August 17, 1831, and more than 100 persons perished.
 
In consequence  of the wreck, the Penmon Lighthouse was erected. It has a greater number of courses of masonry beneath the water than has the more celebrated Eddystone.
 
Continuing the voyage, we pass on the north eastern point of Anglesey the Penmon Quarries, famed for marble, and there come into view the remains of Penmon Priory, founded in the sixth century and having St Seiriol for its first head.
 
Next is passed a farmhouse called Tre'r Castell, occupying the site of an ancient seat of the Tudor family.
 
Then, as the vessel passes through a roadstead known as the Friars, we get enchanting views of the mainland. The prospect includes the mouth of the Conway, Penmaenmawr village and mountain and at one particular point, a glimpse of Aber Waterfall.
 
Near Beaumaris the deep channel is only a quarter of a mile wide, and at low water a sandbank known as the Lavan Sands, the site of a submerged palace, Llys Helig, appears between the channel and the Carnarfonshire shore. The bank once formed a ford across the Strait. Its legendary history is narrated in connection with Penmaenmawr. 
The first stopping place of the steamer is Beaumaris. From the steamer, we get a view of the Castle and of the mansion known as Baron Hill, a short distance in the rear of the town, while the Bulkeley Memorial Column behind Baron Hill, is a conspicuous object. It stands 100 feet high, is constructed of Penmon marble and bears a brass plate with a suitable inscription.
 
Just beyond Beaumaris is Gallow's Point, a place of execution in olden days. On the Carnarfonshire shore may be seen Penrhyn Castle, and in the far distance the entrance to the Pass of Nant Ffrancon and the lofty summits of Carnedd Dafydd and Carnedd Llewelyn overtopping the surrounding mountains. On the same side, also near the mouth of the Ogwen, are two fishing weirs that are said to date from the eighth century. Then comes Port Penrhyn, from which the slates from the Penrhyn quarries are shipped. Almost immediately afterwards, the steamer is at the fine pier of Bangor.
 

 La Marguerite leaves Menai Bridge

We pass many beautiful residences along the shores as we steam down the Menai Strait from Bangor to our next stopping place, the pier at Menai Bridge Town, at the Anglesey end of The Menai Suspension Bridge, which spans the strait at a point one and a half miles from Bangor Station.
 
Having passed under the Bridge, attention is immediately drawn to the old church of Llandysilio, connected with the main portion of Anglesey by a causeway. Then comes Gorad Goch, a small island with a fishing weir and rocks and pools that yield specimens of marine life for the naturalist, and there are opportunities for the patient observer to study the habits of some of the fish that frequent the surrounding water. But the island is chiefly visited for the enjoyment of a whitebait tea at the cottage.
 
To the right of the island is the Anglesey Column, in memory of the Marquis of Anglesey, who was second in command at Waterloo, where he lost a leg.
 
Exactly a  mile from the Suspension Bridge we pass under the Britannia Tubular Bridge, which carries the railway across the Strait through long hollow tubes, of which the floor and roof are formed of cubes firmly connected. 
 
 
Having passed under the Tubular Bridge, we see a statue of Lord Nelson on the right and get an unobstructed view of the mansion of Plas Newydd, beautifully situated on the same side of the Strait.
 
About one and a half miles farther along the Strait is the Moel Don Ferry, opposite Port Dinorwic, from which the produce of the Llanberis slate quarries is shipped. It is believed that the spot or its immediate neighbourhood was the scene of the passage of the Strait by the Roman forces of Suetonius and afterwards of Agricola.
 
Beyond the little port the Strait widens, and attention is directed to Carnarvon, on the southern side, about 10 miles by water from Bangor.
 
About 3 miles beyond Carnarvon we reach the open sea, and have at first, a low uninteresting coast on our right. The vessel keeps close to Anglesey and at the end of some 14 or 15 miles from the mouth of the Strait arrives off Holyhead Island, with its grand coast scenery, and in due time reaches the South Stack Lighthouse, 212 feet high. We can see the suspension bridge by which the islet has communication with Holyhead Island, and also the stepped path on the face of the cliff of the larger island. Holyhead Mountain comes next and then we may look up the bay towards Holyhead Harbour. A run of several miles to the north brings us abreast of a group of rocks called the Skerries, the site of a red banded lighthouse, the dues of which were purchased by the government for the sum of £444,984. The light is visible 17 miles all round.
 
Thence our course is along the northern coast of the island, where, some 6 miles from the Skerries, we pass Cemaes Bay, the first of a group of watering places, the others being Bull Bay, Amlwch, left,  and Eilian Bay, the last named having for its eastern horn the far projecting Point Lynas with its famous signalling station. 
The port of Amlwch, once supported by neighbouring copper mines, has a harbour cut out of the solid rock.
  All this part of the coast presents features of grand scenery, which is continued past Benllech with its fine sands, to Red Wharf Bay, both pleasant little resorts linked by a branch railway with the main Anglesey line. The Bay is the goal of excursions from Beaumaris and from Bangor and Llandudno.   
 
Having left it behind, we soon arrive off Puffin Island, and so complete the circuit of Anglesey.


DANGER MAN

My thanks to Max Pemberton,who once lived at Priory House, Penmon for this information relating to the old 'Danger Man' series, which appeared in the 1960's.
Most of us know that 'The Prisoner', featuring Patrick McGoohan as No. 6, was filmed at Portmeirion. Max has kindly supplied this information relating to Patrick McGoohan acting in Penmon.

The Danger Man episode "That's Two Of Us Sorry", made in 1964 seems to have been written to fit the location:
John Drake (Patrick McGoohan) arrives at the Loch Broom Atomic Power Station and is waved through the gates (BBC Radio station and mast Penmon).

 

Off the north coast of Scotland is the island of 'Herta' where live Magnus Sutherland (Nigel Green) and his daughter Sheila (Francesca
Annis) in 'the old Abbey' (Priory House).


'Jock Lawson's (Duncan Lamont) house is one of the Pilot houses at Penmon Point, one mile from the Priory, as is the lighthouse
featured. John Drake (Patrick McGoohan) arrives on the
island by the stone jetty on the beach on the way up to the
Priory.

 

Later Drake confronts Donald McKinnon (Brian Phelan)
on his boat and the two men fight. Drake is later fished out
of the water (from the deep bay, off shore from the stone
jetty).

 

There is also a secret whisky still hidden in the
old 'Pigeon-House' (the Dovecot). There are extensive shots
of the area throughout the episode. Even the back-projection
when the two men fight in the obvious studio boat is
correct, and filmed from off shore, showing the Priory,
Flagstaff Villa and the quarries. 



ANYONE FOR TEA?


Can you help by naming these people, who are enjoying refreshments near the Penmon Dovecote?
Photo courtesy of Max Pemberton

DERELICT HOUSE



Photos courtesy of Angela Woods


Angela Woods came across this magnificent property, sadly now derelict, and got in touch with me asking;
"Not sure if you can help me but I was curious to know about a house we saw whilst walking last weekend at Penmon. 
"Basically, we took a walk from the Toll car park which was circular and on our return we went through a gate in the wall at Pentir holiday cottage. We crossed diagonally down across a field towards a track which took us past a derelict house on our right.
"I was surprised that such a lovely place was empty. It looked like it had been fire damaged many years ago as the roof had collapsed. I took a picture of it but wondered of its origins and started googling Penmon and came across your site. 
"We have been going up to Anglesey for nearly 20yrs now and I still find places I have never been to!"

If anyone can help Angela solve the mystery, we would love to hear from you. Please contact
mail@penmon.org. It would be wonderful to include the census details of those who lived at the house in this feature. KD
 

I am grateful to John Williams for this reply; KD

I am pretty sure the derelict house that Angela Woods saw was the old Barracks used by the quarry workers.  The only photo that I can find is rather a distant one which is attached.  Since this photo was taken the roof has partially collapsed as has the end wall and old bell tower.  Angela's photo was taken after the collapse which happened within the last couple of years.

Angela's reply;
Yes! I think John Williams is right! I have enlarged the picture and it seems to show four windows on the top floor and four and a door on the ground floor. Our walk brought us down the hill from the right of the picture so when we passed the house and carried on down the house was on our right still. Such a shame to see it in a dilapidated state…if I ever win the lottery….Thanks so much for all your help, no doubt I will be walking somewhere else soon and spot another great mystery!

My thanks to Sian Roberts for the following photos, which include views along the Menai Straits from the Barracks. KD


It all started at Penmon for
David Attenborough

I'm very grateful to Lianne Jones for the following information.
Years ago I was listening to David Attenborough on the radio and the interviewer asked David when he became interested in nature and he said "When walking on Penmon beach finding fossils as a young boy".




MARGARET ANN WILLIAMS
born c 1866 
Penmon

The following request has been received from Gareth Griffiths. Can you help find Margaret Ann Williams's family? KD

I am tracing my ancestor Robert Taylor born Salford 14 Nov 1898 whose mother and sister were born in the Beaumaris, Penmon, Llangoed area. 
The 1891 census for Birkenhead shows-
Margaret A Taylor wife aged 24 born Beaumaris,Penmon (born about 1866/67 as Margaret Ann Williams)
Maggie Taylor daughter aged 5 born Beaumaris, Penmon (now I have to assume she may be born Maggie Williams born about 1886)

1901 census for Salford shows -
Margaret Taylor wife aged 34 born Wales, Llangoed, U.K. 

The husband in each case is Albert Taylor of Salford who married Margaret Ann Williams in Sept quarter 1888 Bangor district which would have incoporated Beaumaris then.  He was a railway porter in 1891 and a dockyard worker in 1901.

Having viewed your excellent website I am wondering where THIS Williams family lived in Penmon/Llangoed?

Sadly Maggie doesn't appear in 1901 so she may have died.

Robert (Bob) Taylor is alleged to have become orphaned and grew up in Llandudno Junction and the family story is that his mother, Margaret Anne Taylor, nee Williams, was said to have been possibly murdered (maybe somewhere near Ardda?).

I don't understand the Ardda connection. When he was about 16, Bob went to work on a farm in Llandudno Junction, before he went to the Dardanelles in The Great War, but he did return unlike so many others. He nearly went to Australia by the time he was about 20 but all for the sake of half crown which he could not pay. He stayed and worked on the railways as a warehouseman then Bodnant as a gardener and he was still gardening at 91 in Little Bispham, Blackpool, on his bike!

It presents a big gap in the family history and I have been able to trace the Taylor family in Saford quite a lot but the Penmon link puzzles my father and I even though I am pretty well versed in family history.

I do have a press cutting when Robert Taylor went back to see some lady who was said to have raised him in the Anglesey area which I shall have to dig out.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to place this on your website as a message or know some connection with the information on your website that may link?
Thanking you kindly.
regards Gareth Griffiths

Gareth can be contacted via
mail@penmon.org


 HARDWICKE FAMILY AT PENMON?

The following enquiry was received from Duncan Sands. Are you able to help please? KD

I see on your website for Penmon that the 1901 Barons Hill census shows Annie Mackeeg as Housekeeper, aged 46, born Croydon, Surrey. My paternal grandmother was a Mackeeg, and I am in possession of a book "All The Year Round", Vol 34. Published in 1884. The first page is inscribed by hand " A. Mackeeg a gift from Lady Hardwicke".
Does the name Hardwicke have any relevance to Penmon?
Do you have any further information re Annie Mackeeg?
I would appreciate any help. Thanks.

Duncan can be contacted via 
mail@penmon.org



JAMES SUNNERS
Penmon Publican?

I received a very interesting request from Sue Loughran, who asked for details of a pub in Penmon. She'd heard that James Sunners had left Liverpool and moved to Penmon, where he had allegedly run a public house in the late 1800s or early 1900's.


James Maule Sunners, born 1851, married Sue's great grandma Annie Elizabeth Carver on 31st August 1873. He was 22 and she was 21. They had four children, eldest James William Sunners (my grandfather) John Edward Sunners, Charles Sunners and a little girl Annie. 

Sue continues;My great grandma died aged 28 from pneumonia and of course James had to marry again so the children could be looked after.  I know he married Belinda (Lena) Magure, and when she died he married again.  I think the boys had grown up and had moved away when he had the pub. I suppose Annie would still be young enough to be with her dad and stepmother.  
 
It's more mysterious than ever why he went to Wales, word of mouth in the family say he ran a pub, but that might have been his story.  I know that James's daughter, Annie, was allegedly a bit of a flirt, as she had two boys out of wedlock. One died in the Liverpool workhouse, both called Alexander McDonald Sunners.

The other boy was brought up in France and was lost after the nuns looking after him were dispersed in the First World War, and was only found in the 1950's as a farmer, who'd joined a circus when he ran away from the nuns school by my Dad's cousin, looking for her half brother. This Alexander had no notion that he was English. 

My Gt Uncle Charlie was champion jockey in France for several years and we had family (Carvers originally from Whitchurch) in the racing business at Chantilly, hence the French connection, and Annie went to France, had a liaison with Alexander McDonald, a jockey friend of her brother Charlie.  Hence the two babies.
 
Worse was to come Charlie had a friend called Prince Murat unwealthy aristocracy - same family as Boney's general, and they both were cash strapped and allegedly sold the same race horse over and over, saying it was safely stabled and trained in the Carver Stables.  They were found out, apparently spread all over the newspapers of the time and Charlie had to flee the country and ended up as a Wrangler in Canada and worked his way down to Texas.

The First World War started and there was an amnesty for Brits speaking French, and he returned and did his bit for King and country, eventually became an Insurance Agent (Club man) in Liverpool, bit of a let down I suppose after all his adventures, and was beloved by all the family.  His son James died last year aged 82.
 
The baby in the census was Uncle Harry, his mother was James Maule Sunners third wife, my dad spoke of him often, my dad was only born in 1902 and Harry was only about 2 years older than him.  Harry had two sons, one died several years ago, and in 2007 I went to USA with a pal and we met his other son, Brian Sunners, a retired engineer, living in New York State, but born in Liverpool, he was a lovely man with a great sense of humour, and my friend couldn't get over how much like my late husband he was, although no relation
.

James worked all over as an engineer, in foundries etc and spent his youth as a cabin boy on the China run.
 
I do know he eventually came back to Liverpool, I think there's something more to it than just going for a job in Wales.

 

I am very grateful to John Williams for his observations on the possibilities of a Penmon Pub. KD

I am not aware that there was ever a pub, in the usual sense of the word, in Penmon.
 
In 1841 a Richard Roberts was living at Pwll Crwn, and he was described as a publican aged 60.   By 1851 he had died, and my ancestors were one of the two families living at Pwll Crwn, where various generations stayed (in Pwll Crwn Bach) until at least the 1960's. 
Richard Roberts, the publican,  and his son and his wife are buried in Llangoed Church.
 
I have always thought that the Roberts family probably kept a room serving beer to quarry workers returning home after work.  I know of a number of these tiny drinking places which can hardly be called pubs.
 
I am wondering if the Sunners family did the same around 1900 in their house, Dinorben Cottage.  It is also on a route the quarry  workers would taken on their way home.  Around 1900 there were many people working in the Penmon quarries.  James Summers was an engine fitter and I wonder if he worked maintaining the machinery at one  of the quarries.
 
This is all guesswork, but could well be an explanation.
 
There was, and still is, a pub in Llangoed called Tafarn y Rhyd
.

Sue adds;Probably while James was at work in the quarry his wife Mary would sell the beer from the back door, I know there were lots of so-called victuallers in the streets of Liverpool.  Thank you so much for your time, my cousin and myself are much in your debt.  My friend and I will drive over late summer and take some photos.

Can you throw any light on James Sunners? Sue can be contacted viamail@penmon.org
 

Sunners Family Connection!

 I was delighted to receive the following message
from Abbey Williams. KD,

My name is Abbey Williams, I live in Sydney Australia and I was very interested to read your article from Sue Loughran in regards to James Sunners, the Penmon Publican. I have been spending a fair bit of time of late trying to piece together some sort of family tree. The reason for my interest is that my Great great great Grandfather was James Sunner also from Liverpool and the son of John Sunner. James and his family moved to Australia in 1858.

James also had a brother Thomas who came to Australia as a convict. H
e was done for pick pocketing. 7 years and sent to Australia. You get less for murder these days. They were certainly tough back then. I must say it is seen to be something of an honour to have a convict relative here in Oz. We call them Australian Royalty and like to think England sent their most interesting characters over.  The poor buggers were sent for such minor crimes but Australia would not be Australia without them.

I will certainly keep an eye on your website as I have many Welsh relatives, my Mum is Welsh, they are mostly in Swansea but you never know who will pop up

I was wondering if it would be at all possible to have this email sent to Sue Loughran as she may be able to shed some light on the Sunners of old, if she would be at all interested in contacting me. I thank you very much for your time.

Happy to oblige, and also delighted to receive this reply from Sue. KD
  

Hi Ken, thanks for forwarding the email from Abbey in Sydney.  I've given her lots of information and gave her my cousin's email in Lincoln and the Australian cousins found in Adelaide.  I don't think she can take it all in yet.  I know how she feels, because my cousin found me years ago and I didn't know anything about the family.  It was very kind of you, thank you, she is a relative, but a little distant, and she is thrilled about catching up with us.  As it happens I will be visiting Sydney in November, and hope to meet up with her.  Also going to rellies in Adelaide.

Co-incidentally about three weeks ago, on a beautiful day, my friend and I and her husband visited Anglesey, mainly to find Dinorban cottages (is that correct or is it Dinorbic)  we had lunch the pub in Llangoed, the landlady was really nice an we couldn't fault the meal.  What a lot of history in that small place, and of course the Vikings got there too.  We walked around and took some great photographs of the lighthouse and Puffin Island.  We found what we thought was the old quarry workings but didn't have a clue where Dinorban cottages were. 

 

The were some run down farm type buildings, and lots of holiday cottages.  It's tucked away and people must miss that little bit of heaven, we were delighted we went. We went into the church and took some photos of the dovecote - all lovely -  somehow I think the cottages my great grandfather lived in in the 1901 census have disappeared.
Thanks so much for all your help.
Sue Loughran

I am very grateful to Les Roberts for solving the mystery of the Dinorben Cottages whereabouts! KD
Re - enquiry from Sue Loughran - Dinorben Cottages, Penmon, now called Penrhyn,  opposite Plas Penmon residential home.

Reply from Sue;Thank you Les, I found the Residential Home on google maps and sent the little orange man over the road, can sort of see buildings in between the tall trees.  Will have to make another journey won't I, glad they haven't been knocked down. 

Dear Ken,

Thank you very much for passing my email on. I have received a lovely letter back from Sue who is related, distantly, but related never the less.
Hopefully now with her info I can put a few more ticks in boxes in my seemingly never ending search for the dead.

Thanks very much again Ken.Kindest regards,
Abbey.

 So happy to have helped you both - and good luck! KD

Delighted to report that another member of the Sunners family, John Sunners, has been in touch, following a visit to the Sunners item on www.penmon.org

Hi Ken, I am one of the Adelaide (Australia) relatives that Sue Loughran was referring to.
My Father was John William Sunners, the son of William Henry Sunners, the son of John Edward Sunners (1879), the son of John Edward Sunners  (1853).
James Maule Sunners (1851), who was Sue's great grandfather, was John Edward's (1853) brother.
I had the pleasure of visiting Sue briefly in Liverpool October of 2010 and I am looking forward to catching up with her later this year in Adelaide.
John Sunners.

John asked to be put in touch with Abbey, and Sue was also involved!

Dear Ken,
Another Sunners!! This is wonderful. All thanks to you and your site.If I ever get over to Wales again I will buy you a beer.
All the very best, Abbey.

I now have a lovely new cousin in Sydney and John Sunners from Adelaide has also been on your site.  I have met John he was on a flying visit last summer and I will be meeting all the gang in Adelaide this winter - their spring - and of course Abbey in Sydney.  It's unbelievable, Abbey has the same hobbies and interests (including WW I)  that I and my cousin Derek have, these genes are marvellous things.  I'm sure all these ancestors want to be found. 
Keep up the good work, much gratitude from us all.

Sue


Another family contact - Dave Warren.
 

Dear Ken,
I believe I may be a distant relation to Abbey Williams who contacted Sue. As far as I can make out, my grand aunt Ann Elizabeth Warren married John Edward Sunners. I would love to hear from Abbey if at all possible. Dave Warren.


Happy to oblige!
KD



OWEN OWENS
born 1890 
Llain Wen, Penmon


Received the following enquiry from Gareth Owen;
Hello Ken, My great taid was Owen Owens who lived at Llain Wen and he left Penmon to work in the Little Orme Quarry, where he met and married my nain. I am just wondering as to where all his brothers and sisters went. I will look forward to hearing from you soon.

Owen's parents were Owen and Ellen Owens. In 1901 Owen Owens 49, a quarryman born in Llanddona, lived at Llain Wen with his wife and children who were all born in Penmon and bilingual. Owen spoke only Welsh. His wife Ellen 43, cared for their children Robert T. 18, a joiner, Maggie A 13, Owen 11, twins Mary and Thomas both 8, Willie 7, Henry 5, Ellen 3 and Elizabeth 2 months old.

Ten years earlier, in 1891 Owen was a game keeper and aged 39 and was also residing at Llain Wen with his wife Ellen 33 and children Robert T. 8, John 7, Margaret A. 3, Owen 2 and Hugh 3 months.

Owen died on the 11th January, 1911. His gravestone reads;

Er serchog gof am
OWEN OWENS Llainwen, Penmon
hwn a fu farw Ionawr 10fed 1911 yn 59 mlwydd oed.
Hefyd ei annwyl briod
ELLEN OWENS
a fu farw Ionawr 14eg 1940 yn 82 mlwydd oed.
"Gorffwyso maent mewn hedd".

Widow  Ellen aged, 53 was still living at Llain Wen after her husband's death with her family consisting of  John H, 27 a rockman at the quarry, daughter Mary Williams, 18, now married, Thomas, 18 a labourer, William, 17, a horse driver, Ellen,13, in school, and Lizzie, 10, also in school. The family appear to have dropped the 's' from their Owens surname.

Neither Gareth's great taid Owen Owen, born about 1890, nor Owen's brother Hugh were living at home in 1911. He married Ellen Williams of Llandudno in 1917, and is believed to have left Penmon in 1920.  

Gareth concludes; I think some of his brothers went to work on the docks on the Wirral, unfortunately all my relatives who would have known the wherabouts of any of my Taid's brothers or sisters have since died. For some reason my Taid also seems to have dropped the 's' off his surname to become Owen Owen.
Gareth can be contacted via mail@penmon if you can help him with his enquiry 



BRYN CAIM
&
COEDWIG TERRACE


I stumbled across your website by accident and thoroughly enjoyed it, congratulations on such a wonderful job I was up till 3am going through it.

I was born and raised in Llangoed my mother was from Penmon and my father from Llangoed. He played in the great Llangoed football team in the early seventies. I notice you have no mention of anyone living at Pant Y Celyn in Llangoed or Coedwig Terrace in Penmon where my parents came from. I wonder if you or anyone else could help with any information regarding the people or the history of these terraces. I was led to believe that the building of coedwig terrace had to be stopped as The Bulkeleys could not prove the land was theirs. 
Terry Hogan


Bryn Caim

Terry recalls from memory that his grandparents moved to Coedwig Terrace around 1937 when their eldest daughter was born. His grandmother Gwyneth (Gwen) Jones was brought up in Bryn, Caim which is some 50 metres up towards Dinmor House from Cae Merddyn, as her brother Emyr Owen and sister Maggie Owen lived there up until the early seventies. Dinmor house used to be a Quarrymans club and I remember an old uncle of mine who was one of 13 brothers who lived in Pentre Falun which is on the top of Park Terrace, just up from St. Cawrdafs Church, telling me of an early morning raid there to arrest afterhours drinkers.

My Great Grandparents were William born around 1873 in Llanddona and Jane Owen, born around 1880 in Penmon. They married in 1903. In 1911, the family were living at Bryn Caim, Penmon.

1911, Bryn Caim, Penmon.
William Owen was 40, and worked as a labourer at the limestone quarry. Jane was 31. At the time they had two children, Mary 6 and John Emyr just 2 months old.

Sadly,  their daughter Mary died of pneumonia on the 28th December 1918, aged 12. This affected William quite badly and he developed mental health problems. Terry has a vague memory of the house, it was one of two tiny cottages which has by now been redeveloped into one. 

The couple had another two children, Gwyneth, Terry's grandmother, and Maggie.

William Owen died on the 15th January 1926, aged 53, and Jane Owen died on the 8th September 1958, aged 78. She lived at Bryn at the time of her death.

Jane is buried with her husband William and daughter Mary at St Seiriol's Church, Penmon
 

Er serchog gof am
MARY
annwyl blentyn
WILLIAM a JANE OWEN
Bryn, Penmon,
a fu farw Tach. 22 1918
yn 12 mlwydd oed.
Hefyd y dywededig
WILLIAM OWEN
a fu farw Ionawr 15 1926
yn 53 mlwydd oed.
Ac am
JANE OWEN
a fu farw Medi 8 1958
yn 78 oed.
"Llewyrch y goleuni tragwyddol arnynt".

10 Coedwig Terrace

Terry's great Grandparents on his grandfathers side lived at number 10 Coedwig Terrace. His name was William Jones, they moved there from Birkenhead.

William Jones of 10 Coedwig Terrace is buried at St Cawrda. He died on the 18th June 1951 aged 78 and his wife Mary  died on the 1st  August, 1945 aged 71.

Terry's paternal Great Grandfather and Grandmother lived in number 6 Pant y Celyn and must have been in residence in1911. His name was John Thomas known as Jack Ty'n Cae and he came from the Red Wharf Bay area. By all accounts he was an excellent bare knuckle fighter, they used to hold bouts inside the castle in Beaumaris on Sunday nights during the summer months. He died around 1960.

Terry's great Grandmother was Jane Thomas, her maiden name is currently unknown.

1911 census - Pen y Berth, Llangoed
John Thomas aged 26 was head of the household. He worked as a rockman at the limestone quarry and was born in Llangoed. He had been married for 4 years to Jane, now aged 24.
Their family consisted of Annie aged 4, William 2 and Richard 11 months.

They had four children;
Will who died around 1964. He had two children, Dennis and Peggy.
Blodwen who I think died in the early eighties.
Eirwen, Terry's grandmother who is still alive aged 90. She married Tom Hogan from Bangor and had four children. John or Johnnie my father, who was brought up by his grandparents in Llangoed and died in 1995, Elizabeth (Betty), Jean and Gerald who were brought up in Bangor.
Richard (Dick) who was a batchelor.



ROBERTS FAMILY
PENTIR, PENMON


I was delighted to receive a message from Gareth Williams, who contacted me after reading the following item on the Penmon People Years Ago page. KD

Jean Davies of Llandeilo recalls her father, Owen John Roberts (left) of Cae Merddyn mentioning a moment during the Great War, when he was at the front, seeing a soldier with a bad limp, outlined nearby. 
He thought he recognised the shape and movement, and called out "Pentir!  Pentir!". Sure enough, 'Pentir' turned around. It was a lad from the same village as him in Penmon, Angelsey.
Pentir was his home, and he was always called by that name. They had a few minutes to forget their battle worries as they reminisced about home.
Jean is my mother and O.J. Roberts, my grandfather. KD

Gareth writes;
I have read the articles on your website with interest and would like to contribute parts of my own family history. I was also interested in the story shown under the 1901 census for Pentir on your website - I am convinced that the man named "Pentir" who was encountered on the front line was either Jack Roberts or his brother Henry (Harri) Pentir Roberts.
It transpires that Gareth is related to 'Pentir' who met up with my grandfather in the trenches during the Great War! 

Gareth continues;
My great great grandfather, John Roberts lived in Pentir, Penmon. He was the son of Henry and Mary Roberts.

My great great great grandparents; Henry Roberts (1813-1897) and Mary nee Williams (1820-1894) lived at Tan Pentre, Llangoed (formerly of Ysgubor Degwm). In the 1881 and 1891 census Henry is shown as Gamekeeper and we know that this was for the Massey family or Cornelyn

Henry was the son of Owen Roberts (1777-1865) and Margaret Parry (1781-1863) of Ty'n Giat, Llangoed.
Mary was however the daughter of John Williams (1782-1872) and Jane Rowlands (1792-1839) of Penmon

My great great great great grandparents;
Mary's father, John Williams is shown in 1841 living on Black Point and working as a Pilot - in later census returns he is shown as a retired pilot. He ended his years at Pwll Crwn Bach where he lived with his daughter Jane and her husband Robert Roberts. Their son (John's grandson) was also called John and we have a photograph of him labelled (in Welsh) - Your Uncle John, Pwll Crwn.

Census information relating to John Williams, Pilot

1841; Pilot John Williams 55 lived at Black Point with Jane 45, Hugh 13, Owen 11 and Eleanor 9.
1851; Retired Trinity Pilot John Williams 68, wife Jane 57, Richard 24, a mason, Thomas 22 a labourer and Ellen 19 a dressmaker, all of Penmon also lived at Pwll Crwn.
1861; John Williams is described as a farmer aged 78, wife Jane is 67. Living with them at Pwll Crwn, is granddaughter, Elizabeth Roberts aged 12.
1871; Retired Pilot John Williams 88 lived at Pwll Crwn Bach with his wife Jane 77, both of Penmon. Son in law Robert Roberts 61 of Llangoed worked as an  agricultural labourer Their daughter Jane Roberts 52 and her children Owen 11 and Margaret 9 were both from Penmon.
 

John died in 1872, aged 90 and is buried at St Seiriol Church, Penmon.
 


In memory of
WILLIAM son of JOHN WILLIAMS, Pilot
by Jane his wife, died Decbr. 22nd 1883
aged 17 years.
Also JANE wife of JOHN WILLIAMS
she died Jany 9th 1839 aged 45
Also the above JOHN WILLIAMS, Pilot
who died January 3rd 1872
aged 90 years 



Mary's mother; Jane is believed to be the daughter of Robert Rowland (1752-1794) and Jane Williams (1754-1830) of Tros yr Afon and Jane was the daughter of Eleanor Williams (1717-1792)

John Roberts was a marble quarryman at the Penmon marble quarry and was married to Ellen (nee Stubbings) from Notts. He met Ellen and married her when he went to Nottinghamshire to lay a marble floor for the Duke of Portland at Welbeck Abbey (Penmon marble we assume).

WELBECK ABBEY

Wikipedia entry on Welbeck Abbey (click here)
Wikipedia photo reproduced by licence



In 1871, John and Ellen were living with her parents, Thomas and Harriet Stubbings 

1871 census, Hop Short Lane, Whitwell, Derbyshire. John was 27 and a stonemason, his wife Ellen was 20 and working as a dressmaker, born in Norton, Nottinghamshire. Her father Thomas Stubbings, head of household was 58 and worked as a Carman, her mother Harriet was 57. Ellen's siblings living at home were, Walter, 18, a blacksmith, Betsy 13 and Rose 10. 


After having two children in England he returned to Penmon with Ellen and the children and continued to work in the marble quarry in Penmon.

My great grandmother Winifred was born in Penmon in 1881 and is shown as 1 month old on the census of the same year.

1881 census. Living at Pentir were stonemason John Roberts 39 of Llangoed and his family. His wife Ellen 30 was born at N Cuckney, children Mary Jane 16 in Witwell, Derbyshire, Thomas H 7 in Witwell, Derbyshire, Margaret 5 in Bangor, Harriet 3 and Winifred 1 month, both in Penmon.


The couple had moved to Marble Quarry Cottage, Penmon by 1891.

1891 Marble Quarry Cottage. John was a stonemason aged 49, Ellen was 46. Their family consisted of Margaret A. Roberts 15, Bangor born, Harriett 13, Winifred 10, John 5 and Henry 2 months old, all born in Penmon.

Interestingly, the 1891 census shows that stone mason Rees Williams 40 of Caerhun lived at Pentir, with his Wife Sarah 33, son William J 10, both of Penmon and  daughter Jane 8 who was born in Toxteth.
Sarah may be the great great great granddaughter of John Williams, the Black Point pilot in 1841
.


John died aged 53 in 1895 but Ellen returned to live in Pentir until her death in 1935.

1901 census; Widow Ellen Roberts 49 of North Norton lived at Pentir with sons Thomas 27, a mason born in North Workshop, John 15 and Harry 10 both of Penmon. Boarder George Dodd 25 of Christleton, Cheshire worked as a quarryman. All were bilingual apart from Ellen who spoke English.

 

 

 

Richard Lloyd
1812 - 1889
Master Mariner
Born Penmon

I am very grateful to Gwen Richards for supplying the following information about her patenal great great grandfather, Richard Lloyd.
Gwen would like to hear from anyone who can supply any additional information, and can be contacted via mail@penmon.org.

 

Ancestors of
Richard Lloyd


Richard's grandfather was John Lloyd of Tanyfron, Penmon, a farmer.
He married twice.  His first wife was Sarah.
They had at least five children, Rice (Rees?) 1744-1748, Rice 1748-1748, Rice born 1749, Catherine born 1753 and Owen born 1756. 

John Lloyd was widowed, and remarried in 1763, to Anne Roberts of Llangoed.  They had two children, Robert 1768 - 1851, and Margaret born 1772.

John Lloyd died 12 May 1794.

There is a memorial in Glanadda Cemetery, Bangor to Richard Lloyd 1812-1889 and two of his children Robert, who drowned, and Miriam Alexandra.


Richard's parents were Robert Lloyd 1768-1851, and Elizabeth 1771-1839, who are both buried in Penmon. 

They had at least six children - Sarah born 1792, John born 1794, Rice 1796-1882,  Richard born 1799, Richard born 1801, and another Richard 1812-1889.
 
Rice 1796-1882 was known in later records as Rees.  He married Mary and had at least five children.  They lived at Rhos Penmon, and later at Bryn Caim.   Rice/Rees was a farmer. 

Richard Lloyd was born in Penmon, and christened in Penmon Church on the 6th August 1812.

Penmon Church

He married Mary Owens in Bangor on the 17th of July 1833 and moved to live there. In 1841, they resided at Well Street, Bangor. They had six children - John, Richard, Owen, Robert, Elizabeth and Henry.

1841; Well Street, Richard Lloyd, 28, Mary Lloyd, 20, John Lloyd, 6, Richard Lloyd, 4, Owen Lloyd, 2, all born in the county

1851; Well Street, Richard Lloyd, 37, sailor, born Penmon, Mary, 37, wife, born Llandegai, children John 15, Richard 14, both sailors, Owen, 11, Robert 9, Elizabeth, 3 all born in Bangor and Sarah Roberts, 16 was their domestic servant, born Llanllechid.

1861; 11, Well Street, Richard Lloyd, 47, Ship Captain, Mary, 47, wife, Owen, 22, Robert 19, both mariners, Elizabeth 13, and Henry, 8.


Richard was a Master Mariner on the Alexander in 1863.

The Alexander

The Alexander was registered in Beaumaris in 1862.
Richard Lloyd was its Master Mariner for over ten years, from June 1863 to December 1873.
During this time, the ship's owners were, Arthur Wyatt (1863 and 1866), John Lloyd (1686 and 1868), R Lloyd (1868), J.M. Bennett (1873), Messers Bennett (1873).
 
John Lloyd owned the ship from 1876 to 1891, during which time the following were Master Mariners on board,  John Reid (1876), John Parry (1876 and 1878), Hugh Parry (1883 to 1893).
Hugh Parry is named as owner in 1893 and 1898, with Master Mariners Hugh Parry (1893) and John Jones (1898).
Marry Parry owned the Alexander in 1898 with Hugh Parry as Master Mariner.
Hugh Parry was owner in 1902 and named as Master Mariner.

Richard's wife Mary died in 1866, and  remarried on the 7th November 1867. His second wife was Jane Williams of Cressington Park, Grassendale, Lancashire. They had one child, Miriam Alexandra born in 1869.

In 1871 and 1881 they were living at 4 Glandwr Terrace, Garth, Bangor.


Glandwr Terrace 

In 1871, Richard was recorded as a Master Mariner, captain of the Alexander.  He is listed in the Welsh Mariner's index.

1871; 4 Glandwr Terrace, Richard Lloyd, 56, Master Mariner, Jane 40, wife, born Denbigh, Miriam A. 2, born Bangor and domestic servant Ellen Owen, 24, born Llandegai

Miriam Alexandra died in 1874.

1881; 4 Glandwr Terrace, Richard Lloyd, 65, Retired Master Mariner, Jane, 56, wife and Jane Davies, domestic servant, born Llanyfudd.


Richard died on 14 May 1889, and was buried at Glanadda cemetery Bangor.  His memorial also mentions his son Robert, and daughter Miriam Alexandra.

Richard and Mary Lloyd's children

John Lloyd 1835 -1904(?) 
He was also a mariner.  He married Jane Jones in Bangor cathedral in 1861.  They lived at 32 Well Street Bangor.
They had 3 children Mary 1862-1866, Robert 1863-1875 and Mary 1867 - died after 1891.


Richard 1837- died after 1851.  
Unable to find any information after the 1851 census.


Owen 1839-1904 
He married Elizabeth Parry in 1861.  They had 5 children - Richard b1861, John Henry b1866, Edward b 1868, Robert b1871 and Mary b1874.  They lived in Bangor, in 14 Garden Square in 1881.  Owen was also a mariner..


Robert 1842-1875. 
He was also a mariner.
He drowned at sea on the 13th December, 1875, after the ship "Huddersfield" foundered following a collision in the English channel.
He is listed in the Welsh Mariners index..


Elizabeth 1847 - 1885. 
Elizabeth was Gwen's great grandmother.  
Elizabeth was born in Bangor on the 2nd September, 1847 and she married William Richards in 1868. He was a son of Richard Richards, who was a master mariner.
They lived close to her brother John Lloyd, at 31 Well Street Bangor. 

William was brought up in Ambrose Street, Bangor, where his father also kept a tavern and grocery.  This house, on the corner of Ambrose Street and Beach Road, is now a chip shop. 
There is a memorial above the door to John, a brother of William Richards, who was a writer of Welsh hymn tunes.

William and Elizabeth had 11 children. Five survived to adulthood.  Elizabeth died just 12 hours after the birth of her 11th child.  This baby survived.

William Richards remarried and had 4 more children with Margaret Bell Henry, born 1853 and died after 1901.  Henry was also a mariner.
 
He later married Mary J Roberts in 1875. They lived at 17 Drum Street,  Bangor, in 1881.


Henry 1853 and died after 1901  
Henry was also a mariner.  He married Mary J Roberts in 1875.  They lived in Bangor, in 1881 they were in 17 Drum Street.  I have no record of any children.



William Rowlands
Trecastell

Einir Thomas has very kindly been in touch, having researched her links to Penmon.
I am very grateful to her for the following information. KD

Rowland Williams of Lleiniog was buried at Penmon in December 1759 aged 64.


In Memory of
ROWLAND WILLIAMS
late tenant of Lleiniog
in this parish.
He died December
11th 1759
aged 64.


His son John Rowlands married Eleanor Hughes of Cwm, Llandrygarn in 1760 and settled at Clegir Mawr, Llanbeulan. Most of their descendants remained in that area but William Rowlands, their grandson, was back at Penmon by 1836.

He appears in the 1841 census living at Trecastell:

1841, Trecastell; William Rowland 25, farmed Trecastell. Also living there were Elizabeth 25, Elizabeth 6, Margaret 3 and Hugh 1.


William died in April 1846 and was buried at Llanbeulan. His widow remarried (Thomas Williams) before 1851, and they appear in the following two census living at Trecastell.

1851, Trecastell; Farming 160 acres at Trecastle was Thomas Williams 38 of Llansadwrn, his wife Elizabeth was 38. Elizabeth Roberts 16 was from Hen Eglwys, John 14, Margaret 12, Hugh 10, and Ann 5 were born in Penmon.House servant Grace Owen 25 was born in Llandegfan, John Jones 21 from Rhiwabon, John Prichard 17 from Llangoed, Wyn Thomas 18 from Liverpool and Thomas Jones 16 of Llangoed were all farm labourers.


1861 Trecastell; Farming Trecastle was Thomas Williams of Llansadwrn and his wife Elizabeth 48. Also there were daughter Elizabeth Rowlands 29, son John Rowlands 22, Margaret Rowlands 20, Anne Rowlands 15 and Catherine Williams 8, all Penmon born. Farm servant Anne Jones 29 and carter John Jones 23 were from Llangoed, carters Josiah Hughes 22 and William Williams 18 were from Liverpool and Pentraeth respectively.


Then they move to Llansantffraid Glan Conwy before 1871,

1871, Cefnyfaelleg;  Thomas Williams, 58, farmer 281 acres, employing 4 men, 1 boy, Elizabeth Williams, 58, wife, Catherine 18, born Penmon, Jeffrey Thomas 31, son-in-law, born Llansantffraid, 31, Margaret Thomas 30, daughter, born Penmon, Thomas Jones, 23, farm servant, born Bettws, John Williams, 13, farm servant, born Llansantffraid, and Catherine Evans 19, domestic servant, born Carnarvonshire.


They were at Brittania Terrace, Menai Bridge by 1891. Elizabeth died in 1892 and is buried at Penmon.


In loving memory
of
ELIZABETH WILLIAMS
the beloved wife of
THOMAS WILLIAMS
late of Trecastell, Penmon
who died September 19th 1892
aged 80 years.
Also of
HUGH ROWLANDS
son of the above ELIZABETH WILLIAMS
who died August 15th 1895
aged 54 years.


Also buried at Penmon are John Rowlands (son of William and Elizabeth) of Plas Newydd, Llangoed and  his family.


In loving memory of
JOHN ROWLANDS
of Plas Newydd, Llangoed
who departed this life
June 18th 1889
aged 51 years.
Also ELEANOR ROWLANDS
(rest of stone undecipherable)



Margaret Hughes
1850 - 1922
Bryn Caim, Penmon
and latterly of
Bryn Dedwydd, Mochdre
wife of Edward Jones

Received the following enquiry from Nigel Orton. KD

I keep finding I am browsing via various links back to your wonderful site.
I wonder if you can assist me tracing the family of my maternal great grandmother?
My parents are 1st cousins both grandchildren of Edward Jones aged 77 and his wife, Margaret Hughes 73, who died in January and February 1922 respectively of in Mochdre, Glan Conwy.
I've tried searching the internet, but I'm not sure if I'm getting various Hughes families on Anglesey very muddled.
Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. Nigel.

Here is the information Nigel has so far on his family.
He can be contacted via  
mail@penmon.orgif you can assist.


Margaret was the daughter of Robert and Margaret Hughes. Robert is described on their marriage certificate as a farmer born Llangoed.

In the 1851 census Margaret's father was Robert Hughes born 1820 and her mother, Margaret was born 1817. Robert was from Llangoed, and in 1851 the family were living at Bryn Caim, Penmon.

1851 Census, Bryn Caim, 

Robert Hughes, 31, labourer, born Penmon, his wife Margaret was 34, born in Pentraeth. They had three daughters living at home with them, Amy 7, Ann 3 and Margaret 1, all born in Penmon. 


My great grandfather, Edward Jones, who married Margaret, was a farmer from Mochdre (Colwyn Bay) and was born near Llanwrst.


I can trace Edward's parents, Robert and Anne Jones, my great great grandparents, to the 1841 Welsh Census. 

1841 Census, Pandy, township of Bodrach, parish of Llangerniew 

Robert Jones, 30 was an agricultural labourer, Anne was 20 and daughter Jane 1. All were recorded as born in the county of Denbighshire. 

In 1851 they lived at Rhos y Lan and had two children: my great grandfather Edward Jones born 1845 and his younger sibling, Robert. Edward's birth certificate gives Llanddewi, an ecclesiastical parish in Llangerniew parish, Denbighshire, 5 miles north east of Llanrwst.

1851 Census, Rhos Y Lan, Llangerniew

Robert Jones, 39 was a farmer of 10 acres. His wife Anne Jones was 32. Their sons were Edward 6, Robert 1, with nephew Daniel Roberts 3, also living in the household. Anne was born in Llanddoged, with the rest of the household born in Llangerniew.   


1861 Census, Ffridd Y Llan, Eglwysfach

Robert Jones, 46 was a farmer of 7 acres. His wife Anne Jones was 41. Their sons Edward and Robert were no longer at home.
Living at home were daughters Jane 12, Alice 8, born in Llanrwst,  Mary 5 and Anne, 5 months old, born in Eglwysfa
ch  


Edward was working as a carter at Hafod Fawr, Llangerniew.

1861 Census, Hafod Fawr, Llangerniew

Edward Jones, 16, was working as a carter for widowed Jane Williams, 37 at Hafod Fawr, a farm of 220 acres. Visiting Jane was her sister Mary Jones, 29.
Jane's son Robert Williams was 19, and her niece Anne Jones, age 8 was also present. Catherine Roberts 19, was a house servant, David Davies 17 was a carter, like Edward and Isaac Jones, 12, was a cowman   


Tracing Edward to the 1871 census, I am fairly sure Edward age 26, is a lodger in Dean Street, Waterloo, Crosby near Toxteth in Liverpool and described in the census as a labourer.

In 1873 at St Michael's Toxteth, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, Edward marries Margaret Hughes, born about 1849 daughter of a farmer, Robert and Margaret Hughes, from Penmon Anglesey.

Edward Jones - Margaret Hughes, Marriage Certificate details 

1873 Marriage solemnized at St Michael's Toxteth in the Parish of Walton on the Hill, in the County of Lancaster.
March 3rd 1873,
Edward Jones, 28, Bachelor. Rank or profession; Clerk. Address; Pickwick Street. Father; Robert Jones. Rank or profession; Famer.
Margaret Hughes, 23, Spinster. Rank or profession; (None). Address; Ouse Street. Father; Robert Hughes. Rank or profession; Farmer.
Signed in the presence of; Robert Jones, Mary Hughes

The census of 1881 lists Edward and his family living at Wern Goch, Llangwstennin, Caernarvonshire.

1881 Census, Wern Goch, Llangwstennin, Caernarvonshire

1881 Edward Jones, 36, married, market gardener, born Llanddewi, Margaret 31, wife, born Penmon.
Their family consisted of Margaret Ann, 7, Robert Edward 6, John 4, Zachariah 2 amd Mary Elin, all born Penmon

The couple went on to have 14 children:
Margaret Ann born 1873,Robert Edward b 1874,John b 1877,Mary Ellin b 1880,Elizabeth b 1881 died as an infant,Jesse b 1883,Helina b 1885,Emily b 1885,Edith b 1888,Zachariah b 1888,Ada b1889,Edwin b1890,Jane b1891 andLouisa Jane b 1891.

In 1891 Edward and Margaret are shown at Bryn Dedwydd, Mochdre; Edward as a farmer born in Llanddewi, Margaret born Penmon.

1891 Census, Bryn Dedwydd

 

Edward Jones 46, farmer, born Llanddewi, Margaret Jones, 40, wife, born Penmon. Daughters Maggie 16, Mary 11, and Elizabeth 10  were also born in Penmon, Jessie 8 and Helena 6, born in Llangwstennin, and the following children in Llansantffraid; Emily 5, Edith 3, Ada 2, Edwin 1 and Jane 1 month old.
All were Welsh speaking.

In the 1901 census Edward is no longer a farmer, but a carter. Helina aged 15 is my maternal grandma,  Louisa my paternal grandma is 10. Edward is shown born in Llanarmon an administrative area taking in Llanddewi.

1901 Census, Bryn Dedwydd 

Edward Jones, 56, Carter, Margaret Jones, 52, wife.
Children living with them were; Helina, 15, Emily 13, Ellen 12, Edwin 11, and Louisa 10, all born in Llansantffraid.
Visiting them at the time were Clara H. Jones 9, Agnes Jones 6 amd Gertrude M. Jones, all born in Llansantffraid.    

I sense this wasn't an easy time for Edward Jones. He switches from market gardener to farmer, yet by 1901 he was no longer a farmer, but a carter. I think that might beequivalent of a white van driver however I know they stayed at the farm and the children helped work it

On at least three occasions Edward appears before the local petty sessions. The North Wales Chronicle on Sat Sept 26 1891 reports he was fined 2s 6d at Llandudno for cruelty to animals.

Then twice before justices at Colwyn Bay Petty Session, The North Wales Chronicle reported on April 7 1894 that he was fined 30 shillings for cruelty to a horse and they further report on Saturday June 8 1895 he was fined 2s 6d either for cruelty or drunkenness (it's not clear).


Edward and Margaret died with weeks of each other at Bryn Dedwydd in 1922.
Edward died on the 21st January 1922 and Margaret on the 12th February 1922.
Their eldest son Robert Edward Jones was the executor of their wills.
 


Index of Wills

JONES  Edward of Bryndedwydd Mochdre Denighshire, farmer, died 21 January 1922 Administration St Asaph. 17April to Robert Edward Jones quarryman.
Effects £483 8s 6d
JONES  Margaret of Bryndedwydd Mochdre Denighshire, widow, died 12 February 1922 Administration St Asaph. 17April to Robert Edward Jones quarryman.
Effects £270 9s

The London Gazette, 9 May 1922:

Re EDWARD JONES, Deceased
Re MARGARET JONES, Deceased

Pursuant to the Act of Parliament 22nd and 23rd Vic. cap. 35,
instituted "An Act to further amend the Law of Property
and to relieve Trustees." 

1873Notice is hereby given, that all creditors and other persons having any claims or demands against the estates of Edward Jones and Margaret Jones, both late of "Bryn Dedwydd", Mochdre, in the county of Denbigh, deceased (who died on the 21st day of January, 1922, and the 12th day of February 1922, respectively, and to whose real and personal estate letters of administration were granted by the St. Asaph District Probate Registry, on the 17th day of April, 1922, to Robert Edward Jones, of 9, Goronwy Street, Bethesda, in the county of Carnarvon, Quarryman), are hereby required to send particulars in writing, of theeir claims or demands to us, the undersigned, the Solicitors for the said Robert Edward Jones, on or before the 1st day of June 1922, at the undermentioned address, after which a date the said Robert Edward Joneswill proceed to distribute the assets of the said Edward Jones and Margaret Jones, deceased, amongst the parties entitled thereto, having regard only to the claims and demands of which he shall then have notice, and the said Robert Edward Jones will not be liable for the assets of the said Edward Jones and Margaret Jones, deceased, or any part thereof, so distributed, to any person or persons of whose claims or demands he shall not then have had notice. - Dated this third day of May, 1922  

CHAMBERLAIN and JOHNSON, Llandudno,
Solicitors for the said Robert Edward Jones.

 

Margaret Jones nee Hughes,
Bryn Caim 


Received this lovely message from Olive Jones. KD Oct 2014
Dear Ken, this is a brilliant site, I was so lost in it last night that I almost forgot to go to bed. Thank you for the work you have put in it, it must have taken you hours, but already it has saved me a lot of searching. Whilst I knew Margaret Hughes was born in Penmon, I had know idea who her parents were until last night when I searched her details.
 
My Family Tree so far.
 
I am led to believe that Margaret Hughes, Bryn Caim, Penmon is my parental grandmother, she married Edward Jones my paternal grandfather, they lived at Bryn Dedwydd Farm and had 14 children, 13 of whom survived. I am the daughter of their son Jesse Jones born October 1983, died July 1945. He married Catherine Davies (Catherine Jones), born 28th January 1890 died June 1990.
 
They had eight children, Margaret Jane b 1909, Christopher b 1910,  Aled b 1912,  Elsie b 1912/13? she died when an infant.  Elsie (named after the first Elsie) B 1926,  Olive b June 1928,  Bryn Davies Jones b 1929 died 1988,  Catherine b 1930/31?. d 1931.
 
I am the sole survivor of the Jesse/Margaret Jones family. I have just started my Family Tree, all my brother’s and sister’s, along with husband’s and wife’s, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren are named on it.
 
If any one knows the Bryn Dedwydd family I would be please to hear from them.

If you can help Olive, she can be contacted via
mail@penmon.org
                         

 




John Edward Jones
Born Caim, 1887

Received the following message
from Margaret Jones, KD:
I have just started on the family history trail and have this week received a copy of the birth certificate of my grandfather John Edward Jones who was born in Caim Penmon in 1887.
I came across your site when trying to decipher the residence information.

I understand that my grandfather moved to the North East of England when he was a child.
I wonder if you had any further information on my great grandparents Edward and Margaret Jones.
If you can help Margaret Jones,
she can be contacted via
mail@penmon.org  KD


Certified Copy of an entry of Birth;
Registration District: Bangor
Application number: 4755344-1
Birth Sub-district; Beaumaris, County of Anglesey
Date; Twenty second August 1887, Caim, Penmon
Name: John Edward, boy
Father's name; Edward Jones
Mother's name; Margaret Elizabeth Jones, formerly Williams
Occupation of father; Labourer
Informant's details: Margaret Elizabeth Jones, mother, Caim, Penmon
Registered; Third September 1887
Registrar; J. Morris

1891 census; 21 North Road, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancaster
John Edward Jones, 29, coal miner, born Llanrwst, Margaret E. Jones wife, 27, born Kelloe, Durham, Sarah M. 9, born Seghill, Durham,  John Edward, 4, Robert 1 both born Penmon.


1901 census; Marsden Cottage, Hatton.
Edward Jones, 45, underground coal miner, born Llanrwst, Margaret E. Jones wife, 38, born Kelloe, Durham, Sarah M. 19, born Seghill, Durham,  John Edward, 15, Robert 13, both born Penmon, Mary, 10, Stubshaw Cross, Margaret 7, Bridget 5, both born Haswell, William 3, born Liverpool, Jane 1 month born Harton, Matthew Hutton, 29, a mason's labourer, was visiting, born South Shields.


John Edward Jones married Margaret Liddle Crone - Margaret Jones is named after her. She was born on the 20th April, 1888 in South Shields, where they married.

The couple had six children:

Margaret Lillian Jones born 10th February 1908 South Shields, known as Lily. She had one daughter who died as a teenager and lived in Birmingham.

Jenny Jones born 2nd June 1909 in Green Lane. She had one son and she stayed in Boldon all her life.

1911 census; 12 Richardson Terrace, Green Lane, Tyne Dock.
John Edward Jones, 23 coal miner (hewer) , born North Wales, Margaret Liddle Jones, 22, wife born South Shields, children Margaret Lilian Hones, 3, Jenny Jones, 1, both South Shields. Also with the family was John Edward's sister Jenny Jones, 10, born Marsden, Durham.

John Edward Jones born 2nd November 1911 in Boldon Colliery.  John ended up living in Northampton and had twin sons.

George Jones
born 23rd February 1
913 in
Boldon
Colliery - It is believed that he was in the RAF and was shot down in the 2nd World War over France. Very little is known about George.


William Jones born 20th June 1917 in Boldon Colliery. He is Margaret Jones's  father who lived most of his life in Boldon but moved to Birmingham towards the end.

Eva Jones born 13th February 1924 in Boldon Colliery. Eva had one son, John Edward. She mostly lived in Boldon. John has supplied much of the family details here.

Boldon Colliery

John Edward Jones finished work at Boldon Colliery pit when he was 65.




The Williams Family
Park, Penmon

I am grateful to Lianne Jones for getting in touch about her Williams family, who lived at Park Penmon. KD



The 1841 census starts with Elinor Williams 40 living at Park with John Williams 25 a keeper, Elinor 15, Hugh Thomas 20 an agricultural labourers and Mary Jones 15

1851 Elin Williams 72 and widowed of Llangoed lived at Penmon Park. Her Penmon born son John 37 was gamekeeper and lived there with his wife Grace 39 of Llangenrhyd, and family William 8, Ann 6, John 4 and Mary 2 all of Penmon. Margaret Jones 20 was a house servant from Llangristiolus.


In memory of John,
son of John Williams, 
Keeper to Sir R.B.W. Bulkeley,
by Grace his wife
who died March 20th 1852
aged 5 years.
Also of the above
John Williams
died April 25th 1877
aged 64 years.
Also of
GRACE wife of the above
who died
September 15th 1827
aged 76 years


1861 John Williams 48 of Penmon was the game keeper at Park. His wife Grace 37 was from Llanfihangel, and their family were Penmon born. William  was 18, Anne 16 a housemaid, Mary 12, Ellen 10, Elizabeth 8, Hefin 4. Ellen Williams 82 was John's widowed mother, born in Llangoed.

1871 Gamekeeper John Williams 38 of Penmon lived at Penmon Park with his wife Grace 39 of Llanfihangel, family Mary 22, Ellen 20 and John 14 all of Penmon, and John's mother Ellen Williams 94 widowed from Llangoch.


1881 Park Penmon John Williams 24 and his family. His wife Sarah was 35, and their children were Esther 5, Grace 3, Annie 2 and Thomas 9 months old. All were born in Penmon. General servant Mary Hughes 24 was from Llangoed. housed park keeper John Williams

John Williams was tragically drowned with others on 29th December on the Menai Straits.

SAD BOAT ACCIDENT
OFF BEAUMARIS

Liverpool Echo 31st December 1889
FOUR PERSONS DROWN

John Williams, gamekeeper to Sir Richard Bulkeley, two brothers named Owen, and a fourth man whose name is unknown, were drowned yesterday afternoon by the capsizing of a boat off Beaumaris. No bodies had been recovered up to last night, and the cause of the disaster is unkown.

A telegram received today says;- There are now strong reasons for believing that the report which appeared in this morning's papers respecting a boating accident in Beaumaris Bay, whereby four men were drowned is correct.

A boat was washed ashore under Lleiniog Castle yesterday morning, with neither oars now rowlocks, and the body of one of the men was recovered near the same place last night.

The circumstances leading to the accident are as yet enwrapped in considerable mystery, but one story which has gained currency is that the men went over from Penmon to Beaumaris on Sunday for the purpose of obtaining drink.

It is expected that the other three bodies may come ashore by the next tide. Two of the men leave families of eleven and nine respectively. 


THE BOATING ACCIDENT
IN THE MENAI STRAIT

Manchester Evening News 1st January 1890 

Mr. R. Jones Roberts, the coroner for Anglesey, yesterday held an inquest at Beaumaris relative to the death of John Hughes, a farm steward, who with three other persons was drowned by the capsizing of a boat in Menai Strait.

The boat started from Beauamris about 8 o'clock on Sunday night...... About noon on Monday the boat, half filled with water and without oars, was found on the shore about two miles from Beaumaris.

The body of the deceased was found yesterday morning near the weir at Lleiniog. It was surmised that the men lost control over the boat, which drifted against a causeway of stones and capsized.

A verdict of "Accidentally drowned" was returned. 

By the accident, 19 orphans and two widows are left, Hughes being the father of nine children and John Williams, a keeper, leaving 10.

The other two men who were drowned were brothers named Williams, who lived at Tygwyn, Penmon. 

Additional note from;
The North Wales Chronicle
4th January 1890

The other two men  were unmarried. They were all very well know at Beaumaris, and much sympathy is expressed towards their relatives.

It will be necessary to look back some three centuries ago to trace the first engagement of Williams' family by the Baron Hill Estate, and after hearing of the sad accident, Sir Richard Williams-Bulkely was deeply touched by the loss of these men. One of the two young men is said to have served in the army and distinguished himself in the Soudan.

I am very grateful to Colin McGaffin
for supplying the press deta
ils. KD.

In memory of
JOHN WILLIAMS
Park, Penmon,
Keeper to Sir RICHARD BULKELEY Bart,
who was accidentally drowned
in the Mai. Sts.  Dec 29 1889
aged 33.
Also
SARAH
wife of the above named,
who died August 15 1926
aged 78 years.


Sacred
to the memory of the sons of
THOMAS and ELLEN WILLIAMS,
Ty Gwyn in this parish
who were accidentally drowned
in the Menai Straits
December 29th 1889.
ROBERT
aged 38 years,
whose body has not since been found
WILLIAM
aged 23 years,
who was interred in this grave.
Also of the above named
ELLEN WILLIAMS
who died August 18th 1897
aged 76 years.
Also of the above named
THOMAS WILLIAMS 
who died February 8th 1901,
a
ged 86 years


 KD.

Sarah Williams' family remained at Park for a while

In 1891 and widowed, Sarah was 43, no occupation recorded, children Esther was 16, Grace 14, Thomas, 12, Sarah 3 and Margaret 1. All were born in Penmon.
 William Jones,68 from Llangaffo, a widowed farm labourer was also living with them.


By 1901, Sarah had married Rowland Owens and was living in Llansadwrn.


In 1901 Sarah 51, was living at Bryn Eglwys, Llansadwrn with husband Rowland, 49 of Pentraeth. Her daughter Sarah was 13 and Maggie 11. Rowland's daughters Elen 12, and Lizzie 6, both born in Llansadwrn, made up the household. 


In 1901 Sarah 51, was living at Bryn Eglwys, Llansadwrn with husband Rowland, 49 of Pentraeth. Her daughter Sarah was 13 and Maggie 11. Rowland's daughters Elen 12, and Lizzie 6, both born in Llansadwrn, made up the household. 



Gamekeeper Percival Joyce 30 of Collingbourne lived at Park with his Heathly born wife Elizabeth 35. Their son Percival W. 3 was born in Petworth. All spoke English


Lianne adds;
My taid William George Williams was born 29th of October 1901 and my nain was Ellen Wynne Davies, birthday I think 10th of October  I don't know when she was born but died in 1969. She was in her 60's. Was so sad and missed.
He had a sister called Margaret. I can't remember the names of his brothers, one might have been Robin but it could have been a nick name. They helped build the wall that that goes right around the Great Orme.
Great nain and taid were caretakers for Bodafon school and lived in the house in the school grounds. I think great taid was a ploughman too. Possibly on Bodafon farm. Mum has a brass ploughman that belonged to him.
I do know that they were buried in Llanrhos parish church and nain died a few weeks after I was born.
I have nains wedding ring and it was made in in the 1890's. It's thin through wearing it for so long.



AMAZING BUCKLE FIND


Inscription;
M J Williams
size approx 70mm x 50mm

Received this remarkable request from Sean Hersey. KD

Dear Mr Davies 
I have been metal detecting in Penmon recently and have uncovered what looks to be some sort of buckle. It is inscribed M J Williams. 
I am contacting you, wondering if you would like to have, or perhaps know someone related to M J Williams, who would like to have this buckle.
If not it will only stay in my finds box and eventually get buried with other items and most likely be forgotten.
Please let me know.
Regards Sean
Sept 2011

If you know who this buckle belonged to,
Sean can be contacted via
mail@penmon.org


Received the following interesting message from Margaret Williams, which has been passed on to Sean. KD
Dear Sean,
 
Browsing through news of Penmon just now I came across your letter re.the stone with the name M. J. Williams.
 
My grandparents lived for some time in the house adjacent to Penmon Priory--  My grandmother was the church cleaner, and grandfather was a gamekeeper around Baron Hill who died when my father was eight yrs old, so obviously I never knew him. My grandmother Elen Williams had 11 children, and I believe the second or third eldest was Margaret Jane Williams.
 
The family moved to Brynsiencyn, and it was in Bryn that Marged Jane-as she was called- died at the age of 27.  My father Alfred was the youngest of the children, 8 boys and three girls; the second youngest, Lizzie also died at a young age,when she was  21. 
 
My father spoke very little about his childhood, but my uncle Hugh, who passed away fifteen years ago (at 97!) told me that Marged Jane died of T.B, as did Lizzie. My father was born in 1910, and Margaret Jane would have been about 16-18 years older than him.
I've no idea whether this news is of any help to you, but I thought I'd just write to let you know.
Cofion,
Margaret Williams
May 2012.