An opportunity to record details of your club's victory in the Welsh Amateur Cup Final.

 


THE WELSH AMATEUR CUP WINNERS
  Featuring;
ESCLUSHAM WHITE STARS 1904/05, 1907/08
JOHNSTOWN AMATEURS 1909/10
LLANIDLOES 1921/22
LLAY WELFARE  1935/36
LLAY UNITED 1948/49
NEWTOWN 1954/55
Complete Welsh Amateur Cup Final Results
COMPLETE 1890/91 RESULTS



Esclusham White Stars
1904/05
1907/08

Welsh Amateur Cup Finals;
1904/05
Esclusham White Stars 4v0 Bangor Reserves
1907/08
Esclusham White Stars 1v0 Brymbo



Welsh Amateur Cup Run
1904/05


1st Round Results
Newtown North End 7v1 Elan Valley Wanderers
Llandinam 7v0 Welshpool Reserves
County Times 26.11.1904


3rd Round Draw
Llandudno v Bangor
Prestatyn v Porthmadoc
Saltney v Mold Alyn Wanderers
Hawarden Bridge v Buckley Engineers
Chirk Reserves v Rhos Rangers
Singleton & Coles v Knighton
Llangollen v Corwen
Whitchurch v Oswestry
Llanymynech v Llanfyllin
Royal Welsh Warehouse v Towyn Rovers
Llandinam v Newtown North End
Esclusham White Stars v Wrexham Victoria
Brymbo Victoria v Broughton United
Byes; Druids, Llandudno, Bala
County Times


3rd Round Results
Chirk Reserves 1v3 Rhos Rangers
Llanymynech 2v2 Llanfyllin
Llandinam 1v2 Newtown North End
Royal Welsh Warehouse 4v1 Towyn Rovers

County Times 28.1.1905


4rd Round Draw
Portmadoc v Bangor
Saltney v Hawarden
Druids v Rhos Rangers
Llandrindod v Singleton & Coles
Llangollen v Bala
Llanfyllin v Whitchurch
Newtown North End v Royal Welsh Warehouse
Esclusham White Stars or Wrexham Victoria or Brymbo
v New Broughton
County Tim
es


4th Round Results

Royal Welsh Warehouse 0v3 Newtown North End
The scores were level at half time 0v0.
In the second half, Smout scored a treat of a goal to give the North End the lead. Forster increased the difference from a free kick, and E. Morgan scored from a fine position.
Royal Welsh Warehouse;
C. Griffiths; Challinor, Rigg; J.E. Jones, P. Little, J. Bellis; T. Evans, G. Wilmot, Ben Evans, M. Jones, W. Nock.
Newtown North End;
Pennington; Forster, W.M. Stokes; Val Purnell, E. Morgan, J. Thomas; J. Jones, W. Parry, R. Smout, Bert Pilot 


County Times 25.2.1905


5th Round Draw
Bangor v Saltney
Newtown North End v Llanfyllin
Rhos Rangers v Llangollen
Singleton & Coles v New Broughton or Esclusam WS
Coun
ty Times


5th Round Results

Newtown North End 7v1 Llanfyllin
Newtown North End led 2v0 at half time.
Newtown North End;
Pennington; Forster, M. Stokes; E. Evans E. Morgan, J. Thomas; J. Jones, A. Swettenham, J. Mills, W.Parry, Smout 

County Times 1.4.1905


Semi Final Draw
Bangor v Rhos or Llangollen
Newtown North End v Singleton & Coles or Esclusham WS
Coun
ty Times 1.4.1905 


Semi Final Results

Esclusham White Stars 2v2 Newtown North End
Parry opened the scoring for North End after 15 minutes, with Miller making it 2v0 after 25 minutes with a beatiful goal. The score remained the same at half time.
The result seemed a foregone conclusion but the Stars 'buckled up' ans Esclusham scored a goal amid much excitement. Then Cave equalised at 2v2.
Newtown North End at the time were top of the Montgomeryshire District League.

Esclusham White Stars;
Thompson; Povah, Griffiths; C. Edwards, Cave, Lloyd; J. Hughes, J. Lloyd, E. Edwards, G. Pemberton, T. Williams.

Newtown North End;
Pennington; Forster, M. Stokes; Fred Evans, Eddie Morgan, J. Thomas; J. Jones, Miller, Swettenham, W. Parry, Smout 

County Times 15.4.1905

Replay
Newtown North End 1v3 Esclusham White Stars

This replay was decided after 2 hours and 20 minutes,
Esclusham pressed heavily for a while, but the splendid Newtown defence prevented a goal being captured.
E. Edwards scored a capital goal for the Esclusham side.
In the second half, the ball travelled rapidly up and down the field and bulky Miller of Newtown 'grassed' several Esclusham men, causing some amusement.
Swettenham equalised after 30 minutes to take the game into an extra 30 minutes.
White Stars' J. Hughes was carried off the field, not to return. There being no further goals, another half hour was played, but to no avail. The scores were still level.
An extra 20 minutes play was decreed during which time Esclusham scored a second and a thrird from the penalty spot.

Esclusham White Stars;
Thompson; Povah, Griffiths; C. Edwards, Cave, Lloyd; J. Hughes, J. Lloyd, E. Edwards, G. Pemberton, T. Williams.

Newtown North End;
Pennington; Forster, M. Stokes; Fred Evans, Eddie Morgan, J. Thomas; J. Jones, Miller, Swettenham, W. Parry, Smout 


Welsh Amateur Cup Final
1904/05

Esclusham White Stars
4v0
Bangor Reserves


Welsh Amateur Cup Winner Medal
1904/05


The reverse is engraved

WELSH CUP 1904-05
Esclusham
Joseph Lloyd

Joseph carried this on his watch chain for many years
(you can see it on the team photo itself).
Photo kindly supplied by Vic Davies.



Esclusham White Stars
1908/09
Back row, left to right;

1 Joe Lloyd ?, 2 ?, 3 Rees Lloyd, 4 Ted Humphreys,
5 Harry Thompson, 6 ?, 7 Alf Badwick,
8 Dick Cotton, 9 Ned Barton
Middle;
1 Chas Williams, 2 Herb Cave, 3 A Lloyd
Front;
1 ?, 2 Hugh Jones, 3 ?, 4 Eb Edwards, 5 Tom Williams  

Photo courtesy of Vic Davies

 

Received this remarkable item from Vic Davies, linking the Welsh football legend Billy Meredith with Esclusham White Stars. KD

I have come across a photo of Esclusham White Stars 1908/09 season.
 
The rumour is that Billy Meredith played for this team but not in this year, possibly earlier. My friend, Geraint Lloyd's grandfather, Joe Lloyd was born in Chirk 1875 and went down Black Park pit with Billy and played with him for Chirk before Joe moved to Rhostyllen, where he played for the White Stars

Joe Lloyd's winning seasons with Esclusham White Stars were 1904 to 1909. During this time, they won the Welsh Amateur Cup twice.

That was when he says Billy Meredith played for Esclusham White Stars.

 

Click here to read about Billy_Meredith 
(Photo; Wikipedia)

Billy Meredith;

Billy was born in Black Park near Chirk. He left school aged 12 to work in the pits as a pony driver, 'unhooking the tubs'  and later 'hutching'.
He spent ten years in the mines and continued to work there for some time after joining

Manchester City (October 1894).
He stayed at Chirk when with Manchester City so that he could continue to work in the local pit
at Black Park.


Source;

Gareth M. Davies and Ian Garland's
WHO'S WHO of WELSH INTERNATIONAL SOCCER PLAYERS


If you can help Vic 
 by adding any further information to
Billy Meredith's connection with Esclusham White Stars, 
he can be contacted via;
mail@penmon.org 



Click: http://rhostyllen.info/index.html
The remarkable collection of information contained within the

Rhostyllen website, compiled by Vic Davies,
is well worth a visit.
Congratulations on a wonderful website Vic. KD


Arthur Humphreys has been in touch;
My grandfather, Edward (Ted) Humphreys was born in Rhostyllen and is on the photograph of Esclusham White Stars 1908-1909. 

He also played for the Johnstown Welsh Amateurs 1909-10 when they won the Welsh Amateur Cup. 

I'm very grateful to Ian Garland, Welsh Football historian for the following observation. KD.
I haven't heard that story and I've checked the biography of Billy Meredith and there's no mention of Esclusham.

I reckon Esclusham White Stars must have been formed around 1900. They are in the Wrexham Amateur League from 1903/04 onwards. After the First World War I think the team was called Esclusham (no White Stars). That would narrow it down but I think his clubs were Chirk, Northwich Victoria then on to Manchester. If he did play for Esclusham pre-WWI it could have been a friendly. Alternatively he might have played for Esclusham in a one-off charity match after he retired. He played quite a few charity matches in the 1920s, inc one at Caernarfon, and had any number of benefits.

He didn't give up the mines until 1895 by which time he was at Man C. I read that before that he used to do an early shift on a Saturday then catch the train to Manchester. You don't get that sort of commitment these days.

Regards
Ian

 


Johnstown Amateurs F.C
Welsh Amateur Cup Winners
1909/10

Welsh Amateur Cup Finals;
1909/10
Johnstown Amateurs 2v1 Bangor



JOHNSTOWN AMATEURS F.C.
The names which appear on the back of the photo are;
Some have after their name a (c) we wondered if this means they were 
on the Committee.
Left to Right
Top Row:
H McLeod(c),   E Jones(c),   D J Griffiths (Vice Pres),   G Pemberton (Capt), Harry Thompson,   Allan Jones,  J H Parry.
Middle Row:
R Hannaby (Assist Sect),   G Jones(c),   D Dyas(c),   P Pritchard(c),  R Gough(c), Bob Davies (Vice Capt),   J H Potts,   B Hughes,   R Jones(c),  J Jones(c), T J Jones (Hon Sec).
Bottom Row:
E Powell (Groundsman),   W Davies (Hon Treas),   H Pritchard,   Edward Humphreys,
T Morris,   Joseph Evans,   Vic Jones,   W Davies (Pres),   R Morris (Trainer).
(Photo courtesy of Arthur Humphreys)
 
Arthur Humphreys writes;
Edward (Ted) Humphreys is my Grandfather who lived in Rhostyllen all his life.
Harry Thompson also
lived in Rhostyllen (who was the Goalkeeper) he also was a family member.  
Both Edward and Harry
played for Rhostyllen White Stars FC as well.
Hope this is of some help to you.
Many thanks for your wonderful contribution to the page Arthur. KD

Llanidloes F.C.
Welsh Amateur Cup Winners
1921/22

Welsh Amateur Cup Final;
1921/22
Llanidloes 3v1 Aberystwyth University

 

Third Round
Llanidloes 6v2 Barmouth
County Times 4th February 1922

Llanidloes: T. Owens, J.P. Jones, Wyatt, Griffith Jones, J. Lloyd, B. Owen,  Walter Williams,  Kyffin Owen, Rod Jones,  W. Vaughan, Bent.

The paper reported that Dolgelley and Tywyn supporters  were vociferously supporting Llanidloes.
Barmouth  put in a protest that Llanidloes had fielded two ineligible players, E. Owen and Griff Jones. It was, however,  proved that both players were eligible. 

Aberystwyth College 2v1 Machynlleth


Welsh Amateur Cup
Fourth Round Draw
Chirk v Cardiff Corinthians
Aberystwyth University v  Caerau Athletic
Rhyl v Summerhill
Llanidloes v Northern Nomads


Fourth Round
Llanidloes 2v0 Northern Nomads
County Times 18th February 1922

Llanidloes: T. Owens, J.P. Jones, Wyatt, Griffith Jones, J. Lloyd, Warton,  Walter Williams,  W. Vaughan,  Rod Jones,  Gordon Jones, Bennett.

Llanidles decisively beat the cup holders. Rod Jones scored both Llanidloes goals. Nomads lost heart and played a losing game.

Aberystwyth College 4v0 Caerau
Chirk 1v0 Cardiff Corinthians


Welsh Amateur Cup
Semi-final Draw
Aberystwyth University v  Rhyl or Summerhill
 Chirk v Llanidloes


Fourth Round
Chirk 2v2 Llanidloes
County Times 25th March 1922

Llanidloes: E.C. Owen, J.P. Jones, G.G. Wyatt, Griffith Jones, J. Lloyd, W. Warton,  K. Owen, R.P. Jones, W. Vaughan, A.G. Bent.

Aberystwyth University 1v0 Rhyl

It was a lucky win for Aberystwyth University. Williams scored 10 minutes before half-time.

Fourth Round Replay
Chirk 3v5 Llanidloes


Welsh Amateur Cup Final
Llanidloes 2v2 Aberystwyth U.C.W.
County Times 29th April 1922
A Dramatic Finish

Aberystwyth College were 2v1 up a quarter of an hour before the end. The excitement became intense.
1,000 watches gave 30 seconds to go. 
Bent appeared pinned to the corner flag, but got through and sent in a strary cross for Williams to strike - it hit the post and crossbar and the keeper drove the ball into the back of his own net.

Williams set up Owen for Llanidloes's first goal, giving them the lead. Griffiths headed in a Gittins cross to make the scores level at 1 each at half-time.
Gittins again centred for Williams to walk the ball into the net, following a goalkeeping error by Owen.
The replay will be held at Machynlleth.


Welsh Amateur Cup Final Replay
Llanidloes 3v1 Aberystwyth U.C.W.
County Times 6th May 1922
Cup back to Montgomeryshire

The Welsh Amateur Cup returns to Montgomeryshire after an absence of 20 years, when it was won by Machynlleth in 1901/02.
Billy Vaughan played in both matches!
This was a fast and exciting game, but the University wasted many chances in the first half, with Williams putting over the bar on many occasions.
After 10 minutes, Bent took the ball down the left wing and passed to Vaughan, who got the ball over to Rod Jones who scored with a beautiful shot.
Owen, in the Llanidloes goal then became bombarded by the College attack, but a breakaway saw Owen increase the lead to 2v0.
Harries netted a penalty for the College after 15 minutes of the second half. 
Then seconds before time, Rod Jones netted a beautiful simple effort making the score 3v1.
R.T Gough presented the Cup to Jack Lloyd, the victorious captain.

Llanidloes:
E.L. Owen: J.P. Jones, G.G. Wyatt: Griffith Jones, J. Lloyd, W. Wharton: R. Williams, Kyffin Owen, R.P. Jones, W. Vaughan, A.G. Bent.
Aberystwyth College:
A. Thomas: R. Richardson, Stan Jones: Ivor Phillips, E.R. Harries, P.J. Morgan: Aneurin Williams, T.A. Griffiths, D.W. Pugh, Moses Williams, T.W. Gittins.


LLAY WELFARE
&
LLAY UNITED
featuring ;


A Brief History of Football in Llay
by
Vic Tyler-Jones 


The model mining village of Llay (Llai) near Wrexham was built by the Llay Main Colliery Company in the early 1920s. The company was keen to foster sporting activities among the miners and 'Llay Main' football team was  entered the Ffrith and District League during 1921-22.

Llay Main had difficulty fulfilling its fixtures because as the club chairman put it - 'Owing chiefly to the working hours of Llay Main Colliery it is most difficult for many of our players to turn out at match hours'  [Wrexham Leader Friday 17th April 1922,  p12] .Llay Main lost to Oak Alyn Rovers 3-2 in the Second Qualifying Round of the Welsh Cup in the 1923 - 24 season and played in the Wrexham Amateur League between 1929 and 1931.

The village soon grew to 2,000 inhabitants and with a colliery workforce of approaching 3,000 there were plenty of potential soccer players and other local teams sprang up. Those we know of are Llay Pals (1923), Llay Rangers (1925), Llay Institute Rovers (1925). The last two mentioned played in the Wrexham and District Amateur League.  A mile from the village, Llay Hall FC based at the colliery of that name played in the North Wales Alliance League.

Later teams included Llay Wednesdays who played in the 1930s in a mid-week league for shop and shift workers in the Wrexham Area and Llay Methodists who played in the Welsh National League (Wrexham Area) after the second world war.


LLAY WEDNESDAY F.C.
c 1937

Back row; Em. Baines, Ken Rowlands, Arthur Jones,
Baldwyn, Roberts, Cliff Davies, Albert Finney.
Front row; Lawrence Evans, Alf Morris, Peter Davies,
Gren James, Gwilym Owen.

Llay Methodists
c 1943 (Llay 'Meths')

Back Row; Raymond Jones, Cliff Hughes, Bert Hartley, 
Norman Tudor, Ted Lewis
Middle Row; Jackie Tudor, George Williams, Ken Salisbury,
Fred Jones, Walter Lewis, Tom Jones (Yorkie)
Front Row; Jack Suckley, Jimmy (Den) Owens, Ned Jones

In the 1950s the colliery's administrative staff formed a team played in the Welsh National League (Wrexham Area) and the colliery workshops also had a team.

 Llay Main Colliery Offices 
c 1953 

Back row;  Albert Rathbone (trainer), Geoff Edwards, Alan Roberts, 
Ben Jones, Ron Crewe, Sam Jones, Iorwerth Davies,
Wilf Jones, Noel Rogers
Front row;  Phil Roberts, Gwyn Jones, Austin Owens,
Don Griffiths, Bill Jones

The colliery closed in 1966 but soccer in Llay continued to flourish. In the seventies Llay Royal British Legion became a force to be reckoned with in the Wrexham Sunday League. Their success encouraged them to enter a team in the Welsh National League (Wrexham Area) and after climbing through the lower divisions they reached the Premier division in 1986.

Of all the Llay teams two are outstanding - Llay Welfare F.C. and Llay United. 'The Welfare' was formed when the magnificent Miners' Welfare Institute and recreation grounds were completed in 1931. Both club and institute are still in sound health today but Welfare's bitter rivals in the Welsh National League Llay United are long gone. United were favoured by the bottom half of the village, Welfare's supporters came largely from the colliery houses near their ground at the top of the village. Nowadays it is hard to believe that hundreds and sometimes thousands of people thronged to their matches in the 1940s and 1950s
.


Llay Welfare F.C.

Llay Welfare joined the Wrexham and District Amateur League in the 1932-33 season, it is likely that they were the successors of the 'Llay Main' team. They soon established themselves and were runners up in the league in their second season 1933-34. The Welfare's greatest achievements were during the 1935-36 season. Although they lost to Newtown 2-1 in the final of the Montgomeryshire County Infirmary Cup, Welfare beat Treharris of South Wales 3-1 to win the Welsh Amateur Cup in a replay at Oswestry after the first game at Newtown was a 1-1 draw.
Their next season was almost as good. In the Welsh Cup after beating Llay United 2-1 in the second round, Welfare went on to beat Hereford United  4-3 in the fourth round before falling to the eventual winners Crewe Alex 2-9 in the sixth round.
Llay Welfare joined the Welsh National League (Wrexham Area) which was formed in 1945, inheriting clubs from the disbanded Wrexham Amateur League.  In 1949 Welfare again reached the final of the Welsh Amateur Cup but this time they lost 2-0 to Caerau Athletic at Aberystwyth. Welfare won the league title in 1962-63 and the North-East Wales FA Cup in the late 1970s.

Llay Welfare F.C.
1951 - 52

Back row; Ivor Davies, Harold Williams, J. Price, Haydn Thomas, Raymond Jenkins, H. Ellis
Front row; R. Holmes (Capt.), Les Jones, Peter Holmes,
Raymond Rogerson, Stan Valentine


Llay United

Thought to have been formed in 1931 our earliest photograph of Llay United is of the team of 1931-32. It is believed that they played in the Chester League at this time. Whether this was a deliberate ploy to keep them apart from 'The Welfare' is not known. They were quickly into their stride and won a large cup, as yet unidentified in 1933. In the Welsh Cup of 1935-36 they lost 3-1 in the second round to Cross Street. The 1936-37 season proved successful as the team won the St. Martin's Charity Cup and were crowned Chester Amateur League champions.
After the war they joined the Welsh National League in 1945-6 and made an immediate impact winning the league title at their first attempt. In the same year they reached the final of the Welsh Amateur Cup, the first final after the Second World War. A crowd of 3,500 saw them lose 1-5 to Caerau United at Machynlleth.

In the 1946-47 season they reached the fourth round of the Welsh Cup before losing to Oswestry town 1-0.  In the same season they again reached the final of the Welsh Amateur Cup and unfortunately there was a similar outcome to the previous year as they lost 0-5 to Troedyrhiw at Llanidloes. Not  to be disheartened by their losses in the Welsh Amateur Cup, United came back strongly to win it in the 1948-49 season, their victims being  Hanwood Welfare, who were beaten 2-0 at Wrexham Racecourse.
Llay became the only village in Wales to have two different teams win the Welsh Amateur Cup.

Llay United F.C.
Welsh Amateur Cup Winners
1948 / 49

Back row; Cecil Davies, Ivor Davies, Harold Rogers, Dennis Povah, Trevor Roberts, Matt Davies
Front row; John Edwards, Estyn Griffiths, Stan Valentine,
Cyril (Alec) Davies , Gwilym Williams


This is the 1950/51 third round line-up of Llay United's Welsh Senior Cup 3rd round home tie line up against Blaenau Ffestiniog, which the visitors won 2v1.

 

United's final season was 1956, their last match being against Cefn Druids. Their pitch on Pentre Lane was sold for house building. The name lives on however for Llay United Junior team was formed in 1980. Robbie Savage was a team member.

There were other teams such as  Llay Rangers and more recently Llay Royal British Legion in the seventies/ eighties.
Llay United Ladies
c 1948


Llay Junior School, Llay Central (Secondary) School and Llay Boys Club also had successful teams.

Llay Boys Club 
Soames Cup Winners 1954
at Wrexham Racecourse

Back row; Gerald Davies, Arthur Ashfield, Trevor Salisbury,
Ken Rogerson, Bryan Davies, David Tudor
Front row; Reg Smith, Noel Ralphs, Richard Vaughan,
Raymond Rogerson, Iram Morgan,
Mascot; Glyn Powell

Llay Junior School Football Team
1953 / 54

Three of these boys went on to play professionally.
Seated with ball is Terry Hennesey, a Welsh International
who played for Birmingham City, Derby County and Nottingham Forest. To his left (our right) is Graham  Bent of  Aston Villa and Wrexham,
and on Graham's left is Ron Roberts of  Wrexham and Tranmere Rovers
.


I would be grateful to know of any historic material mentioning Llay sports teams.

Acknowledgements
Many thanks to the following for their information on Llay soccer teams -
Ken Davies, John Cunnah, and the online Welsh Football Data Archive
http://www.wfda.co.uk

Vic Tyler-Jones   Llai Local History Society  7.9.2010
email: tylerjones@btinternet.com  
tel. 01244 677658


Welsh Amateur Cup Final 1935/36
Llay Welfare 1v1 Treharris

at Newtown

 L
lay Welfare 3v1 Treharris
at Oswestry



Welsh Amateur Cup Final 1945/46
Caerau 5v1 Llay United

at Machynlleth 

A crowd of about 3,500 at Machynlleth on Saturday saw Caerau from South Wales win the Welsh Amateur Cup which they had previously held in 1918-19 and 1938-39, by defeating Llay United from North Wales 5-1, following a 2-1 lead at half time. Typical cup-tie football was played, the first half in fine sunshine and a breeze and most of the second half in a cold drizzle of rain.

Nerves evidently affected Llay United, who never settled down. With their forwards woefully inept against a sound defence, The United's defenders were overworked and faltered badly at times. Three of Caerau's five goals were as a result of defensive blunders. The United had chances to score more than once, but their forwards could do little with a lively ball on a dry ground and frittered them away by their poor shooting.

The half-time score of 2v1, was a fair reflection of Caerau's superiority in the first half, in which the defences on both sides were on top. Twelve minutes after the start, the Llay goalkeeper fumbled a shot from Pearce and Evans who had followed up scored the South Walians' first goal. After eighteen more minutes of ragged play, Hughes equalised with the best goal of the match, a lovely header. Three minutes before the interval, Evans put Caerau ahead again.

Caerau improved in the second half, and with  the United's defence tiring, play was easily one sided. The South Walian's right wing instigated many attacks and with their pattern weaving attacks led them to scoring three more goals. McCluskie increased the lead for Caerau in the second hlf and scored again about 15 minutes later. Five minutes from time, E. Evans headed in Caerau's fifth and last goal

Llay United fought back and for a brief period looked as though they would reduce the deficit, but Caerau renewed pressure.
Teams;
Caerau;  G.A. Fishburn; H. Simons, J Nicholas; G. Williams, W. Williams, W. Williams; L. Jones, P. Pearce, B. James, K. Evans, W. Dawkins, M. McCluskie.
Llay United; W. Davies; K. Davies, M. Davies; H. Rogers, F. Griffiths, J. Williams; R. Hughes, I.G. Davies, A. West, W. Jones, G. Williams
Referee; Mr A.I. Davies, Aberystwyth.

Welsh Amateur Cup Semi-Final 1946/47
Llay United 4v1 Gwynfi Welfare

at Welshpool
5th April 1947 
Other Welsh Amateur Cup Semi-Final Result
Troedyrhiw 1v0 Flint

With practically the same team which contested the final of the same competition last year, Llay United were never in serious danger of losing the match with Gwynfi Welfare in the Welsh Amateur Cup semi-final, played at Welshpool. Despite the atrocious weather there was a large gate, including eight bus loads of Llay supporters.
Llay pressed resolutely from the start and were  placed in the lead after 5 minutes of play by Rogers. Between then and Llay's second goal 20 minutes later, again by Rogers, Gwynfi's goalmouth  was the scene of several desperate struggles. The Gwynfi forwards broke away on several occasions but there was always a Northwalian at the other end to deprive them of the ball. Just before the interval, G. Williams scored Llay's third goal.

In the second half, the South Walians made a plucky attempt to reduce the deficit and scored their only goal 20 minutes after the resumption through I. Lewis, but 8 minutes later, G. Williams put the Northerns three goals ahead.
Teams;
Llay; Walker; Williams, Ivor Davies; M. Davies, Griffiths, Jenkins; G. Williams, C. Davies, Rogers, T. Davies, Hughes.
Gwynfi Welfare; J. Jones; K. Rogers, T. Lewis; E. Morgan, R. Jones, G.A.W. Lloyd, D.T. Rees, I. Lewis.
Referee; A.E. Davies, Aberystwyth

Welsh Amateur Cup Final 1946/47
Troedyrhiw 5v0 Llay United

at Llanidloes
3rd May 1947 

The final of the Welsh Amateur Cup was played at Llanidloes on Saturday, where a  large crowd saw Troedyrhiw victorious in a keen game, by five goals to nil. The South Wales team were strong in both defence and attack and deserved their victory.
Llay were quite good in defence but with the exception of C. Davies at inside left, the forwards were weak and lacked thrust. Davies was actually the best forward on view and often made good openings which were wasted by his colleagues.
Play was evenly contested for the greater part of the first half and both teams missed several changes before Reynolds opened the scoring at the end of 30 minutes play.  
Encouraged by this success, Troedyrhiw attacked strongly and before the interval a penalty for hands enabled Thomas to net their second goal.
During the early part of the second half, Llay had to defend for a considerable period and their goal fell for the third time, when Reynolds took advantage of a defensive lapse to net with a hard drive.
Llay improved for a short time but after Rogers had shot across the goal, Troedyrhiw again took command and following a lovely run, Dyke got their fourth goal.
Walker made two grand saves before Llay broke away to be awarded a penalty. Jenkins however shot against the post and nearing the end, Troedyrhiw attacked strongly for Reynolds to complete the scoring. 
Teams;
Llay United;  Walker; T. Davies, H. Williams; R. Jenkins, E. Griffiths, M. Davies; R. Hughes, T.G. Davies, H. Rogers, C. Davies, G. Williams.
Troedyrhiw; C. Byfield; R. Samuels, G. Manning; D. Davies, C. Rees, D. Evans; C. Dyke, W. Saunders, T. Reynolds, M. Thomas, A. Lewis.
Referee; Mr W.J. Gow, Swansea
Linesmen; R.E. Jones, Aberystwyth, T. Davies, Rhayader.

At the end of the game, Mr Milwyn Jenkins introduced the mayor of Llanidloes (Alderman G.F. Hamer) who presented the cup. The medals were presented by Mrs G.F. Hamer

Welsh Amateur Cup Final 1948/49
Llay United 2v0 Hanwood

at Wrexham

Llay United won the Welsh Amateur Cup for the first time on Saturday when they defeated the Salopian team, Hanwood Welfare by two clear goals. The score hardly did justice to Llay, and if their forwards had realised the goal was on the ground, they may have put on a glut of goals.

Hanwood, who had at the first time of asking had chased through seven rounds of the competition and bagged 35 goals with only 15 against, were a very big disappointment. They threw the game away very largely by their own misguided actions. Even in the second half when they staged a rally their half-backs floundered about the Llay goal area with the ball  so much, that time after time, a Llay man stepped in and got it away without his opponent knowing how it was done.

The folly of not playing to the whistle was emphasised when Llay opened their account at the tenth minute. G. Griffiths saw Valentine in the wide open spaces and soon fed the ball to him, whilst full-back Jones stood vainly appealing for an offside decision that would never have been justified.

It took Hanwood 20 minutes to get into their stride, and what chances they did have then, they threw them all away. Llay's goalkeeper Povah, got over eager in his wandering and on three occasions in less than a minute his goal was quite unattended, when in turn Howells, Scott and Evans had it at their mercy, but all shot wide. On more occasions still, Povah's luck stood him in good stead than did his judgement. Cyril Davies converted a centre from Edwards to score Llay's second goal after half an hour.

Ballooned shots at the rate of two a minute signalled Llay's first ten minutes of the second half. Hanwood then started a fightback programme, but they wasted every effort. They gained countless corners but rarely did Povah get into trouble, at any rate not until five minutes from the end. Then again luck was with him for out of his charge, Evans let fly a drive which hit the upright and careered out to the wing.

Teams;
Llay United; D. Povah; I Davies, T. Roberts; Cecil Davies, H. Rogers M. Davies; J. Edwards, G. Griffiths, S. Valentine, Cyril Davies, G. Williams.
Hanwood Welfare; F. Morris; H. Jones, T. Harris; J. Evans, S. Childs, W. Evans; D. Howell, J. Scott, S. Stoves, G. Griffiths, E. Evans.
Referee; T. E. Evans, Mold
Attendance; 6,859  Receipts £540.


Welsh Amateur Cup Final 1949/50
Caerau Athletic 2v0 Llay Welfare

at Aberystwyth


Llay's Wrexham A.F.C. Connections


Photo courtesy of Vic Tyler-Jones
Wrexham in training 1945
Back row; John Cooper, CyrilCole, Cyril Jones, Jim Almand, George Dean
Front row; Gwyn Thomas, Bill Andrews, Frank Halliday, Noel Crawford, Bill Duffy.
The photo shows two Llay lads, Gwyn Thomas and John Cooper, who was a teacher at Llay Junior School.   

The Miners of Llay Main
by
Vic Tyler Jones


NEWTOWN A.F.C.
ON THE WELSH AMATEUR CUP TRAIL
1954 / 55

1st & 2nd Rounds
Exempted
3rd Round

NEWTOWN
S. Evans   B. Rimmer 2 
3v3
CAERSWS
3rd Round Replay

CAERSWS
1v2
NEWTOWN
I. Oliver   J. Richards
4th Round

MARKET DRAYTON

1v4

NEWTOWN
S. Evans 2  D. Powell 
I. Oliver
5th Round

ABERYSTWYTH TOWN 0v2

NEWTOWN
S. Evans   B. Rimmer

6th Round

CARDIFF CORINTHIANS
2v2
NEWTOWN
I. Oliver  B. Rimmer
6th Round Replay

NEWTOWN
E.P. Williams  D. Powell
2v1
CARDIFF CORINTHIANS
Semi-Final

NEWTOWN
D.Powell S.Evans K.Lewis
3v2
aet
SANKEYS


WELSH AMATEUR CUP  FINAL
CHIRK A.A.A.

2v4
aet

NEWTOWN
K. Bowen G. Stephens 2 S. Evans

 

Welsh Amateur Cup
1954/55
County Times 11th September 1954
First round results
Corwen Amateurs 5v0 Bala Town
Bow Street 7v4 Corris Utd
Towyn 3v5 Trawsfynydd
Barmouth & Dyffryn Utd 6v0 Bryncrug Utd
Lampeter 2v4 Tregaron
Builth Wells 0v 8 Kington
Rodney Rovers 9v0 Llandrinio
Llanfechain 0v1 Llanymynech
Ludlow 0v4 Market Drayton


Welsh Amateur Cup
1954/55
Second round results
 Corwen 1v2 Mold Alex
Chirk WvL Llay Welfare
Barmouth 3v1 Cookes Utd
Llanfyllin 6v0 Trawsfynydd
Machynlleth 4v5 Tregaron Swufts
Aberayron 0v5 Bow Street
Llandrindod 0v9 Kington Town
Knighton Town 9v2 Llanwrtyd Utd
Llanymynech 1v4 Welshpool
Montgomery 2v3 Llanrhaeadr
Llanfair 1v6 Rodney Rovers
Ruyton 0v3 Oswestry Reserves

Welsh Amateur Cup
1954/55
Third round results
 Market Drayton 5v1 Oswestry
Dawley Athletic v Donnington
Barmouth & Dyffryn 2v3 55th R.A. Tonfannau
Welshpool Utd 4v1 Rodney Rovers
Llanfyllin 3v1 Llanrhaeadr
Kington Town 5v2 Knighton Town
Aberystwyth 6v1 TregaronSwifts
Llanidloes 10v0 Bow Street
Newtown 3v3 Caersws Amateurs
(replay Caersws 1v2 Newtown (after extra tme)

Welsh Amateur Cup
1954/55
Fouth round results
 Market Drayton 1v4 Newtown
Abercynon 4v4 Aberystwyth
(replay Aberystwyth 4v0 Abercynon)
Sankeys 2v0 55th R.A Tonfannau
Llandudno 1v1 Welshpool
(replay Welshpool 3v0 Llandudno)
Kington 11v0 Llanfyllin
Llanidloes 3v3 Dawley Athletic
(replay Dawley Athletic 4v3 Llanidloes)
Mold Alex 7v2 Peritus

Welsh Amateur Cup
1954/55
Fifth round results
 Aberystwyth 0v2 Newtown
Welshpool 0v2 Sankeys
Dawley Athletic 4v0 Kington Town
Buckley 3v2 Mold Alex
Chirk1v0 Rhostyllen
Llangollen 2v1 Denbigh Town

 

Welsh Amateur Cup
3rd Round, 6th November 1954
NEWTOWN 2v2 CAERSWS
Newtown's display in the first half was not impressive.
Inside forward B. Rimmer and D. Powell led wing backs Reynolds and D. Williams a merry dance. The whole Newtown attack moved with speed and precision and deserved a 2v0 lead at half time.
On 30 minutes, Oliver broke through and passed to E.P. Williams who found Stan Evans, who easily beat the Caersws keeper.
Rimmer made it 2v0 after a move involving Stan Evans and Powell.
3 minutes into the second half, Les Stephens evaded a tackle on the half way line and scored from 25 yards. The scores were levelled at 2v2 when D. Ll. Jones deflected the ball into his own net.
Rimmer playing delightful football, made it 3v2 to Newtown on 65 minutes, but Richards earned Caersws a replay with a header past Mellings from close range, 15 minutes from time.
Newtown; R. Mellings; G. Lumsden, D. Ll. Jones; E.P. Williams, G. Davies, D. Jones; I. Oliver, D. Powell, S. Evans, B. Rimmer, G. Davies
Caersws; H. Jones; M. Davies, G. Davies; D. Williams, W. Smith, K. Reynolds; I. Owen, W. Evans, G. Richards, L. Stephens, G. Mason6 minutes from time, Oliver drove in an equaliser, and he also netted the winner in extra time.

3rd Round replay
CAERSWS 1v2 NEWTOWN
Both sides defied bad conditions to give 2 hours of highly skilled, clean football.
In the 68th minute, Les Stephens made a fine run down the wing, beating three defenders, centred to Richards whose shot gave Mellings no chance.


Welsh Amateur Cup
4th Round
WELL DONE NEWTOWN.
Splendid  Performance in Cup Tie at Market Drayton
MARKET DRAYTON 1v4 NEWTOWN
Ground conditions were exceptionally bad, but Newtown were 2 goals up in the first 4 minutes.
Newtown kicked off with a good movement, and without a home player touching the ball, David Powell scored with a shot which completely deceived Drayton's goalkeeper.
Stan Evans got the second from an E.P. Williams and Oliver move.
Ten minutes before half time, Drayton reduced the arrears.
Stan Evans netted his second to restore Newtown's 2 goal advantage following neat movement between Rimmer and Richards.
12 minutes from time, Oliver beat the keeper from close range.
Newtown: R. Mellings; G. Lumsden, D. Ll. Jones; E.P. Williams, J. Evans, Austin Davies; I. Oliver, D. Powell, Stan Evans, B. Rimmer, J. Richards.
Reserve; K. Lewis


Welsh Amateur Cup
5th Round
County Times, 8th January 1955
NEWTOWN SOLE SURVIVORS IN WELSH AMATEUR CUP.
ABERYSTWYTH 0v2 NEWTOWN
All the Mid Wales clubs are dismissed. Newtown enter the quarter final of the competition for the second time since the war.
They sprang a surprise by scoring in the 2nd minute. The home team adopted a policy of long passes, while Newtown relied on a short, sharp passing movement.
Aberystwyth kicked off with the swirling wind in their favour. Edwards took a goal kick from an early Newtown attack - his weak shot found Stan Evans who beat the keeper with a low drive.
B.F. Jones was called into action many times to save the Newtown goal.
In the 68th minute, Nrewtown scored their second goal in a well planned affair.
Powell beat three opponents and passed accurately to Stan Evans who centred for Rimmer to head the ball into the home net.
Aberystwyth; G. Edwards; G.L. Thomas, T. Bevan; W. Hughes, W. Ryan, W. Lewis; G.R. Edwards, T. Masson, M. Evans, I. Oliver, I.F. Fisher.
Newtown; B.F. Jones; G. Lumsden, K. Lewis; E.P. Williams, J. Evans, A. Davies; I. Oliver, D. Powell, S. Evans, B. Rimmer, J. Richards,
Gate money £81.

Newtown v Cardiff Corinthians

Welsh Amateur Cup
6th Round
CARDIFF CORRIES 2
NEWTOWN 2
(at Latham Park)

THIS WAS THEIR FINEST HOUR
Although Newtown's equalising goal game 30 seconds from the end, they were the better side throughout.
In 5 minutes, Newtown centre half Jim Evans brought the ball though from a fine defensive interception, stabbed it forward to David Powell, who cleverly whipped it across to Iori Oliver, and the ball was in the net before the Cardiff keeper could move. 1-0. 
Right back Glynn Lumsden was in fine form checking Cardiff's attacks.


Jim Evans closes in as Jones goes for the ball. Evans saved Newtown during several Corries raids.

Cardiff brought out the best out of B.F. Jones in goal with a brilliant dive at the feet of Riley, who looked certain to score.
In the 39th minute, Cardiff bundled the goal into the net, but a penalty was awarded. They scored. 1-1.
Cardiff took the lead from a corner.1-2.
In the last half minute, Austin Davies, Newtown's 18 year old left back who was the finest attacking half back  on the field, threw himself into the attack. He combined with Powell and Oliver, whose clever interplay tangled the defence to allow Rimmer to equalise. 2-2.

NEWTOWN 2
CARDIFF CORRIES 1
(replay)
NEWTOWN ARE IN SEMI FINAL - THANKS TO "E.P'S" LATE GOAL.
Within two minutes, Austin Davies put Stan Evans in possession. He slipped it  to David Powell, who charged at the defence and left the Cardiff keeper helpless with a low drive into the net.1-0
Cardiff, attacking against a hesitant defence, equalised with a brilliant header, giving Jones in goal, no chance. 1-1.
25 seconds left to play. A Newtown corner. Edgar Williams prepares to take the kick. The ball sails into the air above Evans, Powell and Oliver, touches the keeper's hand and goes in to the net. Williams has scored direct from the corner. 2-1

Newtown v Sankey
Welsh Amateur Cup
Semi Final
NEWTOWN 3
SANKEY'S 2
(after extra time)
(at Aberystwyth)

NEWTOWN REACH FINAL OF WELSH AMATEUR CUP
In this semi-final tie Newtown bewildered Sankey's Hadley Castle Works team by the finest craftmanship football I have seen for a long time, writes 'Criticus'
Newtown took the lead after 35 minutes. A free kick just outside the Sankey penalty box  was collected by inside right Powell, who sprinted through the defence to slide the ball into the net. 1-0.
Williams engineered  a sparkling attack 11 minutes into the second half, which resulted in an unmarked Ken Lewis side footing the ball into the net. 2-0.
9 minutes later, Sankey pulled one back when Jones was unsighted, following a corner. 2-1.
A defensive error in the closing seconds resulted in Sankey's equalliser. Extra time beckoned. 2-2
Stan Evans, pictured left, whose general play was unselfish, fittingly scored the winner when he flicked a cross towards goal, and the ball span out of the keeper's hands into the net.3-2.
Chirk v Newtown
Brian F Jones saves

Welsh Amateur Cup Final
NEWTOWN 4
CHIRK AAA 2
(after extra time)
(at Welshpool)

CHIRK FORCED EXTRA TIME - BUT THE ROBINS MAKE THE MOST OF IT.
The first 20 minutes was crammed with earnest endeavour and a display of nervous energy on both sides. Then Riley put Chirk ahead booting the ball in along the grass. 0-1.
Newtown winger Stephens was brought down in Chirk's penalty area, and Keith Bowen made no mistake from the spot. 1-1
Stephens later  fastened on to a long forward pass from Stan Evans whose shot went past the keeper. 2-1.
Chirk flung themselves forward and grabbed an equaliser after about 80 minutes. Extra time. 2-2.
Stephens scored his second to give Newtown the lead again, 6 minutes into extra time. 3-2.
Stan Evans made the Cup safe for the Robins with a fine goal with 6 minutes remaining. 4-2.

NEWTOWN WIN THE WELSH AMATEUR CUP.

Left; Brian F. Jones makes a fine save.
Bottom left; Glynn Lumsden boots the ball clear from a Chirk attack.
Bottom right. Jones makes another brave save

WELSH AMATEUR CUP FINAL 1955
Anticipation

Wels AmateurCupWinners 1955

Standing; Glynn Lumsden, Jim Evans, Brian Jones,
Austin Davies, Keith Bowen.
Seated; Iorrie Oliver, David Powell, Stan Evans, Edgar Williams,
Ken Lewis, Gordon Stephens

WELSH AMATEUR CUP FINAL 1955
Celebration

Newtown won the Welsh Amateur Cup in 1954/55,
beating Chirk 4 v 2 after extra time.

The game was played at Welshpool on the 16th April 1955 and in charge of The Robins was Ted Rigby (ex-Manchester City, Barrow and Hereford)
who had been signed as the club professional at the start of the season.
The late David Powell was a player in this team with goals coming from Gordon Stephens 2, Stan Evans  and K. Bowen, one goal each.

Welsh Amateur Cup Final Results

Season Cup Winners Res. Finalist Venue
1890/91
1891/92
1892/93
1893/94
1894/95
1895/96
1896/97
1897/98
1898/99
1899/00
Wrexham Victoria
Llandudno Swifts
Wrexham Gymnasium
Mold Red Stars
Caergwrle Wanderers
Queensferry Ironopolis
Coppenhall
Rhos Eagle W.
Oswestry Utd Res.
Wellington St. George
4v1
2v2
1v0
4v3
2v1
3v0
3v2
6v1
1v0
2v0
Flint
Wrexham Gymnasium
Wrockwardine Wood
Wrockwardine Wood
Bangor R.
Shrewsbury Athletic
Rhos Eagle W.
Singleton and Coles
Singleton and Coles
Llanrwst
Wrexham
Rhyl
Wrexham
Stansty Park
Flint
Wrexham
Wrexham
Chirk
Welshpool
Flint
1900/01
1901/02
1902/03
1903/04
1904/05
1905/06
1906/07
1907/08
1908/09
1909/10
1910/11
Wrexham Victoria
Wrexham Victoria
Druids Res.
Wrexham Victoria
Esclusham White Stars
Buckley Engineers
Buckley Engineers
Esclusham White Stars
Caernarfon
Johnstown Amateurs
Buckley
1v0
1v0
4v0
4v2
4v0
4v1(2v2)
4v1(2v2)
1v0
5v1
2v1
1v0
Singleton
Machynlleth
Bangor Res.
Druids Res.
Bangor R.
Portmadoc
Aberystwyth
Brymbo
Oak Alyn Rovers
Bangor
Aberystwyth
Wrexham
Oswestry
Wrexham
Oswestry
Wrexham
Welshpool
Newtown
Wrexham
Colwyn Bay
Chester
Newtown
1911/12
1912/13
1913/14
1915/19
1919/20
1920/21
Rhos
Johnstown
Cardiff Corinthians
War suspension
Caerau
Northern Nomads
2v1
3v1
1v0
susp
4v1
2v0
Summerhill
Aberaman
Holywell
War suspension
Barmouth
Cardiff Corinthians
Wrexham
Llanidloes
Newtown
Suspended
Wrexham
Llandudno

1921/22
1922/23
1923/24
1924/25
1925/26
1926/27
1927/28
1928/29
1929/30
1930/31

Llanidloes
Acrefair
Denbigh Town
Northern Nomads
Lovell's Athletic
Lovell's Athletic
Lovell's Athletic
Cardiff Corinthians
Cardiff Corinthians
Aberystwyth
3v1
1v0
2v1
5v1
2v0
2v0
1v0
2v0
4v3
5v1
Aberystwyth University
Lovell's Athletic
Lovell's Athletic
Llanidloes
Holywell
Holywell
Llanidloes
Aberystwyth
Burtonwood
Llanfairfechan
Oswestry
Oswestry
Mold
Rhyl
Hereford
Flint
Aberystwyth
Machynlleth
Llanidloes
Machynlleth
1931/32
1932/33
1933/34
1934/35
1935/36
1936/37
1937/38
1938/39
1939/40
Machynlleth
Aberystwyth
Cardiff Corinthians
Aberdovey
Llay Welfare
Treharris
Abercynon
Caerau
Abercynon
3v0
2v1
1v0
2v1
3v1(1v1)
2v1
2v1(1v1)
1v0
3v0
Cardiff Corinthians
Llanidloes
Llanidloes
Aberystwyth
Treharris
Llandudno
Wem Town
Lovell's Athletic
Flint Athletic
Aberystwyth
Machynlleth
Aberystwyth
Machynlleth
*Oswestry
Aberystwyth
*Llanidloes
Treorchy
Aberystwyth
1940/45
1945/46
1946/47
1947/48
1948/49
1949/50
1950/51
War suspension
Caerau Athletic
Troedyrhiw
Flint Town
Llay United
Caerau Athletic
Treharris Athletic
Susp
5v1
5v0
2v1
2v0
2v0
3v1
War suspension
Llay United
Llay United
Troedyrhiw
Hanwood Welfare
Llay Welfare
Connah's Quay Juniors
Suspended
Machynlleth
Llanidloes
Machynlleth
Wrexham
Aberystwyth
Aberystwyth
1951/52
1952/53
1953/54
1954/55
1955/56
1956/57
1957/58
1958/59
1959/60
1960/61
Ton Pentre
Connah's Quay Nomads
Lovell's Athletic
Newtown
Portmadoc
Portmadoc
55th R.A. Tonfannau
Chirk A.A.A.
Chirk A.A.A.
Caersws Amateur
6v2
3v2
3v2
4v2
5v2
5v2(2v2)
3v1
2v0(2v2)
3v2
4v2
Chirk A.A.A.
Caersws
Overton St. Mary's
Chirk A.A.A.
Bangor
Druids United
Portmadoc
Whichurch Alport
Caerau Athletic
Buckley Wanderers
Aberystwyth
Wrexham
Newtown
Welshpool
Bangor
*Bangor
Newtown
*Wrexham
Newtown
Wrexham
1961/62
1962/63
1963/64
1964/65
1965/66
1966/67
1967/68
1968/69
1969/70
1970/71
Cardiff Corinthians
Chirk A.A.A.
Donnington Wood
Llanidloes Town
Caerleon
Brymbo Steelworks
Cardiff College of F.Ed.
Cardiff College of F.Ed.
Aberystwyth
Bridgnorth
3v2
2v0
2v1
3v2
1v0
3v2
3v1
2v0
2v1
2v1
Holywell
Caersws Amateur
Caersws Amateur
Gwynfi Welfare
Welshpool
Cardiff College of F. Ed.
Welshpool
Tonyrefail Welfare
Cardiff College of F. Ed
Welshpool
Newtown
Wrexham
Newtown
Abergavenny
Llanidloes
Llanidloes
Aberystwyth
Ton Pentre
Llanidloes
Llanidloes
1971/72
1972/23
1973/74
Welshpool
Rhyl
Whitchurch Alport
1v0
2v0(0v0)
2v1
Aberystwyth
G.K.N. Sankey
Cardiff College of F. Ed
Newtown
*Wrexham
Newtown
* replay
venue

  The Welsh Amateur Cup
was replaced by
The Welsh Intermediate Cup
in 1974

Welsh Amateur Cup Final
Statistcs

Most  Cup Wins

5 Cardiff Corinthians
4 Lovell's Athletic
4 Wrexham Victoria
3 Aberystwyth
3 Chirk A.A.A.

Most Final Appearances

7 Aberystwyth
7 Cardiff Corinthians
7 Lovells Athletic
5 Cardiff College of F. Ed.
5 Chirk A.A.A.
4 Portmadoc
4 Wrexham Victoria

Most defeats in Final

4 Aberystwyth
4 *Holywell
4 *Llanidloes
3 *Bangor R.
3 Cardiff College of F. Ed.
3 Lovell's Athletic
3 *Welshpool
* without winning Cup

Consecutive Cup Wins

3 Lovell's Athletic
2 Wrexham Victoria
2 Buckley Engineers
2 Cardiff Corinthians
2 Portmadoc 
2 Chirk A.A.A.
2 Cardiff College of F. Ed.

Consecutive Cup Final
Appearances

4 Cardiff College of F. Ed
3 Lovell's Athletic
3 Portmadoc

WELSH JUNIOR CUP
RESULTS
1890 - 1891

I am extremely grateful to Dylan Jones
for supplying the following exclusive match results from the inaugural year of what was to become the
'Welsh Amateur Cup'
KD

Please note that when the Welsh Amateur Cup was first initiated,
it was known as the
"Welsh Junior Cup".
It was a tournament that got suggested once the season was underway.
Round 1 games were not played until January, and judging from teams entered they were predominantely Wrexham based clubs.

Teams were broken down into groups (or divisions as referred to at the time). Interestingly the Semi-finals were what we would term today as
"double-headers", both played on the same day and at the same venue.

WELSH JUNIOR CUP
1890 - 1891
 

ROUND 1

1st Division
a. Brymbo Institute Reserves 1-3 Broughton St Pauls 
 (In initial draw Broughton are shown as Brymbo St Pauls,
thereafter shown as Broughton St Pauls).
b.Berse Rovers 5-3 Buckley
c.Westminster Rovers Reserves 0-2 Llay Hall Blue Stars

2nd Division
d.Wrexham Victoria 18-0 Gwenfro Red Stars
(not a missprint - eighteen)

e.Minera Rovers 4-8 Rhostyllen Reserves
f.Wrexham Gymnasium 3-2, 1-3 Wrexham Reserves 
(Protest game ordered to be replayed)

3rd Division
g.Mold Red Stars 4-4,0-1 Rhyl Victoria Cross
h.Mancott & Pentre United 4-2 Llandudno Swifts
i.Mold Reserves 0-4 Flint
k.Holywell bye

4th Division
l.Oswestry Reserves 8-1 Penycae Wanderers
m.Malpas 1-4 Chirk Reserves

(In Chirk team list a certain name stands out  "W. Meredith") 
n.Rhos St Johns 4-3 Rhos Reserves

Notes
Wrexham Gymnasium v Wrexham Reserves played 17/01/1891,
all other games played 24/01/1891 ,
both replays (1 draw, 1 ordered) played 07/02/1891)


ROUND 2

a..Broughton St Pauls 3-1 Berse Rovers
Llay Hall Blue Stars bye
b.Wrexham Victoria 2-1 Rhostyllen Reserves
Wrexham Reserves bye
c.Rhyl Victoria Cross 3-4 Mancott & Pentre United
d.Flint 3-2 Holywell Reserves
e.Oswestry Reserves 0-3 Chirk Reserves
Rhos St Johns b
ye
Notes
game 'a' played 14/02/1891,  other games played ?


ROUND 3

a.Llay Hall Blue Stars 5-3 Broughton St Pauls
b.Wrexham Reserves 3-5 Wrexham Victoria
c.Mancott & Pentre United 1-2 Flint
d.Rhos St Johns 0-7 Chirk Reserves
Notes
games a-c played 07/03/1891, game d played 09/03/1891

 


 

SEMI FINALS

a Flint 3-0 Llay Hall Blue Star
b.Wrexham Victoria 3-2 Chirk Reserves
Notes
28/03/1891 both played on Racecourse attendance 1000



FINAL

Wrexham Victoria 4-1 Flint
Notes
20/04/1891 Racecourse Wrexham