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Jimmy's grandaughter, Sarah Burgess got in touch; I found a photograph of the Spurs team in 1930/31 on your website, and discovered my grandfather was pictured in it. He was called 'Jimmy' Smy, rather than James while playing football, and his date of birth is 24th November, 1907. Different sources are claiming different dates for things , but the teams I believe he played for are: Lower Edmonton, Hampstead Town, Tottenham Hotspur in 1929/1930(professional), Northfleet United, and Sittingbourne (joined 1934 and was their captain around 1936/1937 - no luck finding any information or proof). My mother said my grandad threw a lot of the newspaper clippings mentioning him out, which is great shame. I've literally started from scratch to find out about him which started with the Spurs and I've (very slowly) gone from there. ALL help is greatly appreciated and all information, no matter how small, is received with much thanks. Thank you very much for your help Ken, We feature Jimmy here in the hope that we can find out more information about him. KD
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR F.C. 1929/30
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1929-30 Row 1. Bill Bann, Jack Reddish, Len Davis, Harry Wilding, Cyril Spiers, Joe Nicholls, Allan Taylor, Cecil Poynton, Harry Garbutt, Frank Osborne, Andy Thompson, inset FJ Bearman (director) Row 2. G Hardy (trainer), J Darnell (asst. trainer), B Ives (asst. trainer), Tom Meads, Tommy Cable, Darkie Lowdell, Alex Lindsay, Harry Skitt, Jimmy Armstrong, Bert Smith, Baden Herod, Jimmy Dimmock, Ted Harper, Frank Hartley, Matt Forster, HG Crellin (asst. secretary), J Anderson (asst. trainer), W Over (groundsman) Row 3. W Minter (manager), AW Turner (secretary), CD Roberts (chairman), Walter Bellamy, Arthur Crompton, Nat Griffiths, Joe Scott, Billy Cook, Taffy O'Callaghan, MF Cadman (vice-chairman), G Cox (director), G Wagstaffe Simmons (director) Row 4. Jimmy Smy, Tom Evans, Arthur Rowe, Jack Illingworth. | |
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR F.C. 1930/31
 Jimmy Smy appears in the bottom row, second player from the right
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1930-31 Row 1. Inset Willie Davies, Wally Alsford, Andy Thompson, Tom Cable, Ted Harper, Alf Messer, Cyril Spiers, Joe Nicholls, Allan Taylor, Dick Rowley, Baden Herod, Bert Lyons, Cecil Poynton, Frank Osborne Row 2. G Hardy (trainer), W Minter (groundstaff) J Darnell (asst. trainer), Tom Evans, Arthur Rowe, Walter Bellamy, Darkie Lowdell, Harry Skitt, Frank Hartley, Bert Hodgkinson, Jack Reddish, Jimmy Dimmock, Les Howe, W. Gordon, W Over (groundsman), J Anderson (asst. trainer), HG Crellin (asst. secretary), B Ives (scout) Row 3. AW Turner (secretary), G Wagstaffe Simmons (director), CD Roberts (chairman), Fred Channell, Taffy O'Callaghan, Joe Scott, George Hunt, Billy Cook, T. Ison, Jack Illingworth, Jimmy Smy, Tom Meads, MF Cadman (vice-chairman), G Cox (director), P Smith (manager). | |
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR F.C. 1931/32 | |
James Smy, known as 'Jimmy', was born on the 24th November, 1907, at Edmonton, Middlesex. He was the son of George and Louisa Smy. In 1911, George was 41, born in Sudbourne Suffolk and worked as a labourer in a brewery. He and his wife Louisa had been married for 17 years. Louisa, born in Clerkenwell, London, was 40. The couple lived at 69, Cornwallis Road, Lower Edmonton with their family consisting of, Jane aged 12, Kate (Kit) 9, Louisa Anne, 5, Jimmy 3 and George 1. All the children were Edmonton born. Jimmy played football from an early age and soon became captain of the Edmonton Schoolboys team. He also played for London and the South of England as a schoolboy.
Other junior teams included; Tottenham Polytechnic, Woodside, Tottenham Argyle, (winners of the London Junior Cup years later, in 1932/33 when they beat Gainsford Athletic 3v1) and Lower Edmonton.
When Jimmy was 19, is height was 5 feet 71/2 inches and he weighed 11stone 5 pounds.
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HAMPSTEAD TOWN
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Jimmy pictured here with two other Hampstead players.
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In 1926-27, Jimmy signs for Hampstead from Spurs 'A' team.
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Jimmy Smy's appearances for Hampstead Town Athenian League, (unless otherwise stated) 1926/27 |
Sat 29 Jan Redhill (home) W5-3 - scored 1 Sat 05 Feb Sutton Utd (home) L0-1 Sat 26 Feb Tufnell Park Away W4-3 (Middx Senior Cup) Sat 05 Mar Clapton Orient Reserves Home L4-7 (Friendly) Sat 26 Mar Southall Away L0-1 (Middlx Senior Cup S/F) Sat 02 Apr Uxbridge Town Home W5-4 - scored 1 Middlx Charity Cup S/F Sat 09 Apr Summerstown Away W3-2 Friendly Fri 15 Apr Barking Town Home L2-3 - scored 1 Sat 16 Apr Barking Town Away L2-3 Sat 30 Apr Windsor & Eton Home W6-3 - scored 1 Sat 07 May Barnet (at Griffin Park Brentford - att 2,000) D3-3 Middx Charity Cup Final Trophy shared six months each
Post season tour of Germany Sun 22 May SF Swhwarz - Weiss Barmen L1-4 - scored 1 Wed 25 Turn & Resenport Union 1880 D2-2 - scored 1 Thur 26 Rheydier Spelvecia W4-2 - scored 2 2
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1927-28 plays for Middx County vs Royal Air Force also Sat 26 Mar 1928 scores once for Middx County v Cornwall at St Austell
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Jimmy Smy's appearances for Hampstead Town Athenian League, (unless otherwise stated) 1927/28 |
Mon 12 Sep Uxbridge h W2-1 Sat 17 Sep Waltham Comrades h W7-1 FA Cup plm rd - scored 2 Sat 24 Sep Sutton Utd h L1-2 Sat 01 Oct Welwyn Garden City h W7-4 FA Cup rd1 Qual - scored 5 Sat 08 Oct Redhill h L1-2 - scored 1 Sat 15 Oct Chesham Utd FAC rd2 Qual h D2-2 Thu 20 Oct Chesham Utd FA Cup replay a W3-2 Sat 22 Oct Kingstonian a L2-7 Sat 05 Nov Cheshunt h D2-2 - scored 1pen Sat 12 Nov Southall a L2-3 - scored 1 pen Sat 19 Nov Bromley h L1-3 Sat 03 Dec Barnet 1-6 game abandoned Middx Charity Cup Sat 10 Dec Leyton a L2-8 Sat 24 Dec Barnet a L0-1 abandoned Sat 31 Dec Royal Navy Depot (Chatham) FA Amateur Cup rd1 L1-2 Sat 14 Jan Sutton Utd a L2-5 Sat 21 Jan Enfield H W 3-1 - scored 1 goal Sat 28 Jan Cheshunt - Middx Senior Cup h L2-3 (game abandoned 80 mins) Sat 04 Feb Cheshunt as above W 6-1 - scored 4 Sat 11 Feb Enfield a L4-6 Sat 18 Feb Tufnell Park a W4-0 Middx Senior Cup - scored 2 Sat 25 Feb Redhill a D1-1 Sat 3 Mar Windsor & Eton h W4-2 - scored 1 Sat 10 Mar RAF Uxbridge MSC S/F h L0-2 Sat 17 Mar Kingstonian H L0-2 Sat 14 Apr Finchley H Friendly L1-2 - scored 1 Sat 21 Apr Leyton h L2-3 Wed 25 Apr Enfield Middlx Charity Cup S/F A L3-5 - scored 1 Sat 05 May Barnet A L1-4
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1927-28 Sat 12 March, prefers to play for Spurs Reserves rather than Hampstead. He later signs for Northfleet (then considered a Spurs 'nursery' side) 1927-28 article in Hendon Times suggests Smy is one of three players (others being Oscar Reinke and D E Levy) of whom have each regretably recently lost their respective fathers.
1928-29 denoted as first team captain for the season - also selected for London FA tour of Germany.
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Jimmy Smy's appearances for Hampstead Town Athenian League, (unless otherwise stated) 1928/9 |
Sat 15 Sep FA Cup plmrd Botwell Mission (now Hayes & Yeading) L2-6 Sat 22 Sep Uxbridge Town a W2-0 Sat 29 Sep Kingstonian W4-1 h - scored 1 Sat 06 Oct Redhill H W2-0 Sat 20 Oct Barking town H W2-0 Sat 27 Oct Barnet a W4-3 - scored 1 Sat 03 Nov Barnet h W2-1 Sat 10 Nov A Cheshunt W6-0 - scored 1 Sat 17 Nov Barking a W3-0 scored 1 Sat 24 Nov Redhill a D2-2 Sat 01 Dec Barnet a W4-1 Middlx Charity Cup - scored 2 Sat 08 Dec Windsor & Eton W6-0 h - scored 2 Sat 15 Dec Maidenhead United FA Amat Cup rd1 W4-2 - scored 3 Sat 29 Dec Enfield a L1-6 Sat 12 Jan Southall h W2-1 Sat 19 Jan Sutton Utd FA Amat Cup rd2 L3-4 a
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Played for Middx County v Surrey in the final of the Southern Counties Amateur Championship at Dulwich Hamlet on Wed 25 Apr
He represented the Football Association and the Athenian League. He also represented the Football Association against the RAF, with Jimmy scoring a hat-trick. The following day, he was selected to represent Middlesex in the Southern Counties Amateur Championship at Tufnell Park against Norfolk, which Middlesex won 7-0. It was a very muddy game. Jimmy played at inside left, and scored 3 goals.
Jimmy was also selected as a reserve for the England team. England v's Scotland at Hampden Park, Glasgow on 28th April, 1928.
At the 1928/29 AGM, Mr Raymond announces that "the club were aiming to win the Athenian League title and could have done so had Jimmy Smy not left" - the Hendon Times end of season summary said that "Jimmy Smy's departure for Tottenham Hotspur in February affected subsequent results".
Hampstead Town were top of the Athenian League when he signed for Tottenham in 1929.
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1914-15 Hampstead Town were elected as a member of Athenian League to replace Townley Park, but the football season did not take place due to the First World War Season LEAGUE P W D L F A P POS 1919-20 ATHEN 22 10 6 6 43 37 26 4/12 1920-21 ATHEN 22 12 4 6 46 41 28 3/12 1921-22 ATHEN 26 12 5 9 40 38 29 4/14 1922-23 ATHEN 24 9 2 13 48 53 20 8/13 1923-24 ATHEN 24 10 6 8 49 37 26 5/13 1924-25 ATHEN 26 10 11 5 55 34 31 5/14 1925-26 ATHEN 26 15 1 10 66 46 31 4/14 1926 Changed name to Hampstead Season LEAGUE P W D L F A P POS 1926-27 ATHEN 26 7 2 17 59 78 16 13/14 1927-28 ATHEN 26 6 4 16 44 76 16 11/14 1928-29 ATHEN 26 16 3 7 64 39 35 2/14 1929-30 ATHEN 26 9 5 12 46 51 23 11/14 1930-31 ATHEN 26 11 6 9 68 60 28 8/14 1931-32 ATHEN 26 14 4 8 72 52 32 4/14 1932-33 ATHEN 26 15 6 5 82 35 36 2/14 1933 Changed name to Golders Green Courtesy of Football Club History Database | Christ Church Hampstead was formed in 1908 and a year later the club dropped "Christ Church" in favour of becoming Hampstead Town FC. "Town" was then dropped from the title in 1926. Six seasons later another name change saw the club become Golders Green FC after some debate. At the commencement of season 1946/47 that the name of Hendon was adopted due to the ground lying within the Borough of Hendon. |
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I am extremely grateful to Robert Wakeley, a Hendon fan (formerly Hampstead F.C.), for supplying the information relating to Jimmy Smy's appearances for Hampstead, the photo and additional information. KD | |
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AMATEUR INTERNATIONAL SCOTLAND v ENGLAND 28th April 1928 |
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Jimmy Smy is named as a 'Reserve to Travel'. He turned professional and was unable to fulfill the dream of an Amateur International Cap for England. |
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TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR |
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Jimmy Smy joined Tottenham Hotspur as a professional in January, 1929, aged 22, as a stand in for Billy Crook. Jimmy at that time was 5 feet 8 inches tall, and weighing 12 stone.
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Jimmy's debut as a professional was on the 9th February, 1929 , against Port Vale. He made 17 professional apperances, scoring 6 goals: 1929 / 30 14th September 1929 v's Blackpool lost 2-3 O'Callaghan, Smy 19th April 1930 v's Charlton Athletic won 3-0 Harper (2), Smy 1930/31 September 1930 v's Millwall won 4-1 O'Callaghan, Harper, Smy, Dimmock 25th October 1930 v's Everton lost 2-4 Smy (2) 1st November 1930 v's Charlton Athletic won 5-0 O'Callaghan, Harper (3), Smy |
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Some other match information from those seasons; 1929/30 Spurs beat Wolves 4v2 at home on the 22nd February. Reading beat Spurs 3v0 at home on the 2nd April 1930/31 A 3v0 reverse for Spurs at Molyneux against Wolves on the 19th October. West Bromwich Albion beat Spurs at home 4v3. White Hart Lane sees Spurs and Reading draw 0v0 on the 7th December. It is not known whether Jimmy played in the games mentioned here.
Reserve Team Football. Jimmy played 70 reserve team games for Spurs, netting a remarkable 45 goals One memorable match was; Spurs Reserves (4) 8v0 (0) Brighton order of goals: Smy, Galloway, Hartley(2), Smy, Scott, Smy (2) The crowd gave a standing ovation to Jimmy as he left the field. Team: Nicholls, Bann, Reddish, B. Smith (capt), Helliwell, Lindsay,Thompson, Hartley, Galloway, J. Smy, Scott.
Jimmy's last game for Spurs was against Arsenal in the LONDON CHARITY CUP FINAL 4th May 1931 Arsenal 2 v 1 Tottenham Hotspur
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Jimmy Smy Sarah Burgess would like to extend her sincere thanks to TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR F.C. and their club historian Mr Andy Porter for compiling and supplying the following concise history of Jimmy's complete appearances for the club. It is reproduced here with their kind permission. |
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Jimmy Smy; Born; Edmonton, November 24, 1907 Died; Brisbane, 29th July, 1997
Position: Inside left. 1929: 5ft 8ins; 11st 9lbs
Career: Eldon Road School, Edmonton; Hampstead Town; Tottenham Hotspur amateur 1926, professional January 22, 1929; Northfleet United August, 1932; Sittingbourne September, 1934 to at least November, 1937.
Honours: FA XI representative, Middlesex County XI Athenian League XI.
Notes: Captained Hampstead Town circa 1926 and was captain of Sittingbourne as at August, 1936. Played for Northfleet United v Tottenham Hotspur Reserves on March 4, 1933. Northfleet were a 'nursery team' to Tottenham According to the Tottenham Weekly Herald newspaper during March, 1929, Jimmy had been baptized and confirmed at St. Peter's Church, Tottenham. He had also been choirboy, Scout Rover and Rover-Mate, and was now a Senior Server at the church. Emigrated to Australia, arriving on July 29, 1983
Appearances and goals for Tottenham Hotspur Totals Apps 116 Goals 74 First Team Apps 19 Goals 6 Div 2 = Football League Division Two, LPCF = London Professional Charity Fund, LCCF = London Challenge Cup Final Reserve Team Apps 73 Goals 48 LC = London Combination, Res Friendly = Reserve Team Friendly 'A' Team Apps 24 Goals 20 All Friendly matches.
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Season 1926-27 11.12 Biggleswade A L 2-4 'A' 27.12 Windsor & Eton A D 2-2 'A' - scored one goal 08.01 Arsenal 'A' A L 1-4 'A' 15.01 Arsenal 'A' H W 12-2 'A' - scored four goals 22.01 Guildford A L 1-4 'A' 09.02 Aldershot Command A L 2-3 'A' 12.03 Clapton Orient A D 1-1 'A' 19.03 Wood Green H W 2-1 'A' - scored one goal 18.04 Hertford Town A W 5-2 'A' - scored three goals 19.04 Luton Town H W 4-1 LC 26.04 Tottenham League H W 4-0 'A' |
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Season 1927-28 No appearances |
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Season 1928-29 15.11 Cambridge University H W 12-3 Res Friendly - scored two goals 22.12 Brighton & Hove Albion A W 8-0 LC - scored four goals 05.01 Southampton A L 2-3 LC - scored one goal 26.01 Brentford A L 1-2 LC 02.02 Millwall H W 5-0 LC - scored three goals 09.02 Port Vale H W 4-2 Div 2 23.02 Bradford PA H W 3-2 Div 2 02.03 Grimsby Town A L 0-2 Div 2 09.03 Stoke City H W 1-0 Div 2 29.03 Fulham H L 2-4 LC - scored one goal 06.04 Portsmouth A D 2-2 LC - scored two goals 13.04 Coventry City H W 4-1 LC - scored one goal 20.04 Charlton Athletic A W 3-1 LC - scored one goal 22.04 West Herts A W 2-1 'A' - scored one goal (from a penalty) 27.04 Clapton Orient H D 1-1 LC 04.05 Brighton & Hove Albion A L 0-2 LC |
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Season 1929-30 31.08 Coventry City H W 9-0 LC - scored three goals 02.09 Southampton H W 9-0 LC - scored three goals 07.09 Brentford A L 2-3 LC 14.09 Blackpool A L 2-3 Div 2 - scored one goal 21.09 Chelsea A L 1-2 LC 28.09 Chelsea A L 0-3 Div 2 05.10 West Ham United A D 2-2 LC 12.10 Millwall H D 2-2 LC - scored one goal 19.10 Charlton Athletic H W 4-2 LC - scored two goals 23.10 Portsmouth H L 0-1 LC 26.10 Bradford City H D 1-1 Div 2 02.11 Reading H W 7-0 LC - scored two goals 23.11 Cardiff City A L 0-1 LC 30.11 Swansea Town H W 2-0 LC - scored one goal 07.12 Luton Town A L 1-3 LC 14.12 Southend United H W 5-0 LC - scored three goals 21.12 Arsenal A L 2-4 LC 25.12 Watford A W 2-0 LC 26.12 Watford H D 2-2 LC 28.12 Coventry City A W 4-1 LC - scored two goals 04.01 Barnsley A L 0-2 Div 2 18.01 Clapton Orient A L 1-3 LC 25.01 Chelsea H W 4-3 LC 01.02 Hampstead Town A D 3-3 'A' - scored two goals 08.02 West Ham United H D 1-1 LC - scored one goal 15.02 Millwall A W 3-0 LC - scored one goal 08.03 Reading A D 2-2 LC 22.03 Queens Park Rangers A W 2-0 LC 29.03 Romford A W 1-0 'A' 14.04 West Herts A D 3-3 'A' 19.04 Charlton Athletic H W 3-0 Div 2 - scored one goal 21.04 West Bromwich Albion A L 3-4 Div 2 26.04 Hull City A L 0-2 Div 2 Leading goalscorer for Tottenham Hotspur Reserve Team in the London Combination with 19 goals |
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Season 1930-31 30.08 Cardiff City A L 0-3 LC 06.09 Brighton & Hove Albion H W 5-2 LC - scored one goal 08.09 West Ham United H W 4-0 LC - scored two goals 15.09 West Ham United A L 2-5 LC 20.09 Crystal Palace H W 4-1 LC 27.09 Millwall H W 4-1 Div 2 - scored one goal 29.09 Southampton H L 0-3 LC 04.10 Oldham Athletic A W 2-1 Div 2 11.10 Nottingham Forest H W 2-1 Div 2 18.10 Queens Park Rangers A L 0-2 LC 25.10 Everton A L 2-4 Div 2 - scored two goals 01.11 Charlton Athletic H W 5-0 Div 2 - scored one goal 03.11 Crystal Palace A D 2-2 LPCF 08.11 Bradford City A L 0-2 Div 2 15.11 Fulham A L 1-2 LC 22.11 Charlton Athletic H W 3-2 LC 29.11 Watford A D 2-2 LC 13.12 Portsmouth A W 3-2 LC 26.12 Luton Town A W 4-0 LC 27.12 Cardiff City H L 1-2 LC 03.01 Brighton & Hove Albion A D 1-1 LC 24.01 London Caledonians A W 5-1 'A' - scored two goals 31.01 Chelsea H D 1-1 LC 07.02 Brentford A W 4-2 LC 14.02 Northfleet United A L 2-3 'A' 21.02 Biggleswade A D 0-0 'A' 07.03 Chelmsford A L 0-1 'A' 19.03 Colchester & District A W 7-1 'A' - scored one goal 28.03 Charlton Athletic A W 2-0 LC - scored one goal 03.04 Southend United A W 3-2 LC - scored one goal 04.04 Watford H W 6-0 LC - scored one goal 06.04 Southend United H W 6-2 LC 29.04 Reading A L 2-4 Res Friendly 02.05 Luton Town H W 6-0 LC - scored two goals 04.05 Arsenal H L 1-2 LCCF |
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Season 1931-32 29.08 Watford H D 2-2 LC 31.08 Charlton Athletic A L 1-4 LC 07.09 Queens Park Rangers H W 4-2 LC - scored two goals 17.09 Queens Park Rangers A D 1-1 LC - scored one goal 10.10 West Ham United A L 0-5 LC 24.10 Leytonstone A W 6-1 'A' - scored three goals 31.10 Luton Town H W 5-2 LC 14.11 Chesham United A L 1-2 'A' 19.11 Oxford University H D 5-5 Res Friendly - scored one goal 21.11 Portsmouth A W 3-1 LC 12.12 Arsenal H D 2-2 LC 19.12 Frome A D 2-2 'A' - scored one goal, from a penalty 06.02 London Caledonians A L 2-4 'A' - scored one goal 20.02 West Ham United H W 3-2 LC 12.03 Luton Town A L 2-3 LC 25.03 Millwall H W 1-0 LC 26.03 Coventry City A L 2-4 LC - scored one goal 28.03 Crystal Palace A L 2-3 LC 09.04 Brentford A L 1-6 LC 16.04 Fulham H W 8-0 LC - scored one goal 02.05 Barking A L 0-3 'A' | | My sincere thanks to Tottenham Hotspur and Andy Porter, their club historian for their invaluable cooperation with this item about Jimmy Smy. Ken Davies
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NORTHFLEET UNITED |
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Northfleet United had been playing football in the area since the 1890s, notable as a Tottenham nursery side in the 1930s. Gravesend & Northfleet Football Club was born as a merger of the two existing neighbouring clubs. Spurs released Jimmy in 1931 when he joined Northfleet United. |
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SITTINGBOURNE F.C. |
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Sittingbourne F.C. had a financial crisis in 1932/33 and the club went into liquidation. Jimmy moved to Sittingbourne in September 1934. He was appointed Captain in 1936/37. Sittingbourne survived to the Second World War with help from supporters when hostilities once more brought about their enforced closure.
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On the 29th July, 1983 Jimmy emigrated to Australia He married Jane Roberts and the couple had a daughter, Jennifer, and have two grandchildren, Sarah and Linda.
Jimmy died in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia on the 29th July 1997 |